Posted by Shy_Girl on March 9, 2005, at 15:40:12
In reply to Re: Why death is an option for me » Shy_Girl, posted by Impermanence on March 9, 2005, at 13:13:10
> I can see some similarities between yourself and myself. I also think like you do, I think!! I don't see any problem with suicide apart from the misery you leave behind you with those that love you, that alone is reason enough not to kill yourself untill you really are homeless with nobody left.
Well...all I can really say is that suicide can be inherently selfish. In the egocentric view, the world ceases to exist when one perishes.
>There is no right or wrong other than what society has decided is right or wrong and good or evil.
I agree, but I do think that what society chooses to be right or wrong is not simply the result of whim and fancy. There must be inherent advantages for humans of all different cultures to develop similar beliefs about right and wrong. Now, whether or not these tendancies to conform are 'good' or 'bad' may depend on the particular environment at a particular time. The core beliefs about right and wrong seem consistent and longlasting, so perhaps they have been advantageous in the past...it remains to be seen whether or not they will in the future.
> I've been through four serious suicide attempts over the last four years, they were all while blind drunk but I have spent countless sober hours dreaming of having a bottle of barbiturates to switch off my consciousness permanently... I was just fed up with the game of life. I was tired. I could see a bright future, I was pretty happy with things although I was only existing and not living...I'm sorry you had to go through so much. Four attempts...that's rough. The game of life...I know what you mean...it seems meaningless at times. From the outside, everyone and everything seems the same...people living to work and working to live...choosing to conform because that is what is comforable. I think this is a misconception though, because we are too egocentric. If I could somehow walk in another person's shoes, I think I would find most people have wonderfully detailed and intricate live...truly unique.
<But with all that I still Love reading and learning. I get a hard on reading up on astrology, chemistry, physics, technology, history, politics, conspiracies... I Love movies, music, games all kinds of art. I sit in wonder at the chaos and beauty of the universe.I recently got into astronomy (sorry, no astrology for me!). I've always been interested in learning about the cosmos. Camping out in dark skies, checking out telescopes and gagets, looking at galaxies, star clusters, nebulas and meteors, wondering about superstring theory...it's awe inspiring.
> Over the years I've become very spiritually aware (and I don't mean religious, I have no time for that crap)
It's difficult for me to grasp the whole spirituality concept. The universe is seemingly wonderfully complex, but for me it is enough to be able to explain parts of it. Meditation and stuff is good because it calms one down.
< I guess what I'm trying to say is it's O.K. to commit suicide, but it's crazy to do it so early in your life. Give yourself time, a lot of time before you make a decision that you can never ever go back on.
Time is relative. I don't think it matters whether or not I'm young or not. I'm just going to do whatever feels good at the moment. It is however, highly unlikely I'm going to end my life at this time because I live with my parents and I cannot get together my plans for a peaceful death.
Thanks for telling your story : )
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