Posted by Francesco on November 13, 2003, at 6:14:10
In reply to An Idea » Francesco , posted by DSCH on November 13, 2003, at 2:12:43
> Francesco,
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> Some thoughts that came to me while my mind wandered tonight instead of shuting down and going to sleep...whare are you takin' at the moment ?
> You appear to have dramatic responses to coffee/espresso (mostly negative) and gingko (mostly positive). I am wondering if this might be a sign of borderline insufficency in perfusion in areas of your brain, particularly the pre-frontal cortex, which would be aggravated by caffiene (a vasoconstrictor) and helped by gingko (a vasodilator).
This is substantially right. But ginko doesn't take care of all my problems. It helps a bit with concentration while tyrosine helps much more but not enough. I suspect there is also an "obsessive part" in my concentration problem. That's why half an hour ago I took my first 50 mg Tripthofan capsule : )
What's exactly a borderline insufficency in perfusion in areas of brain ? Also with the help of dictionaries I didn't understand anything : o
When did you notice ADD coming on and the OCD going away?
This is too hard to remember. I suspect that ADHD came first form a logical point of view and that OCD was just an attempt to manage ADHD ... When I was a child I was clearly ADHD and sometimes clearly OCD (not just OCD tendencies, but rituals and so on). When adolescents I had only OCD tendencies + ADHD. Maybe the puberty has changed something in my brain chemistry (yeah, I'm shooting in the dark ;-) Psychologically speaking I'm perfectionist, like many ADDers, but I'm not focused enough to "be perfect". Therefore I give up... how can you study in a "perfect way" while you can't read more than one page without starting to daydream ? When the ADHD is solved the perfectionist tendency remain and I can be perfect ;-)
> What do you think?Too ignorant about the matter to think anything about what you said : )
If this guessing is correct, the best thing (maybe) would be to take gingko (probably a bit less than that first time around!) ;-) and then find something to take on the problems that are remaining, which sound serotonergic, and thus maybe tryptophan would fit.
Why not ? I'll try them both and let you know
> I don't quite understand how one would go about finding a balance between tryptophan or 5-HTP and tyrosine given that tyrosine beats out tryptophan and the LNAAT can be easily saturated (IIRC).
These are a very bad news : o I thought that
tryptophan + tyrosine would have been the perfect combo ! Anyway, tyrosine alone is not for me (not everyday at least). Negative effects of tyrosine:mild diarrhoea (which is not a big deal), excessive hunger (I eat much more but not in a compulsive way like I did on Anafranil ... I'm just hungry !)
If I don't eat I get nervous
Too much energy !
Some kind of overfocusing like episodes ... I'm so concentrated on a particular (internal or external) thing that the rest of the world disappear
less sharppositive effects
a lot of energy !it doesn't help *so* much with concentration but if I don't understand what I read (because I'm thinking of something else) I can go on without cursing ;-) it makes me assertive even with myself
I look people in their eyes (less shy)
less procrastination
final review: ritalin like effects but the duration of the effect is longer (about 12 hours) the side effects are more tolerable, the positive effects are better in many respects
sorry, I went out of tracks ! ;-)
Meanwhile, I don't think gingko would interfere with tryptophan at all.
Nice to hear it ! I have got to try it : ) as you're probably noticing trypthophan is helping me with verbal fluency ... It makes me calmer ... I'm ready to study now : ) (but maybe I'll procrastinate because I skip tyrosine ;-)
> Anyway, just some things that were bouncing around my head in lieu of sleep. YMMV. ;-)
Yesterday evening after the effect of tyrosine fade out I was sure I would have not be able to sleep ... I get a little hypo after a stimulant fades out (also with Anafranil, which has for many respects and paradoxically stimulant properties) ... Therefore I had to take Serpax (a benzo) ... I know this is not a sharp solution but sometimes I *must* sleep a decent number of hours if I don't want to be uptight and edgy the
day after ... Oh God, I'm talking so much !> Whatever else, make sure you are getting some B3 and magnesium. :-)
This is the content of Minervitam:
every capsule:
A 0,8 mg
E 10 mg
B1 1,4 mg
B2 1,6 mg
pantotenic acid (?) 6 mg (could be B3 ?)
B6 2 mg
Niacine (?) 18 mg
Vitamin C 60 mg
Magnesium 90 mg
Iron 14 mg
Zinc 15mg
Copper 1,2 mg
Manganese 10,0 mg
Iodium 0,15 mg
Vitamin D3 5,0 mg
Vitamin B12 1,0 mg
Falacine 0,20 mgIs it worth to take it in your opinion ?
Thanks for all the suggestions and care, I will answer to the other post as far as possible
Bye !
poster:Francesco
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