Posted by Lou Pilder on October 19, 2014, at 14:52:15
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on October 18, 2014, at 20:49:28
> > I am unsure as to what you are wanting readers to think here by you now saying that you want to revise what you posted to me here.
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> You know, I'm unsure myself as to what charges I was defending myself against. Let's start from here:
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> 1. My policy is not to sanction archived posts.
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> 2. I'm not responding to all of your notifications because I consider the outcomes you fear to be unlikely. I am responding to you in this thread because I value your point of view and don't want to dismiss your concerns.
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> > I did not give you my permission to be a subject person to be a target of hate here
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> Do you not want to be a target of hate? Would you rather be a target of love? Or not the target of any feelings at all?
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> > > a subset of readers could think it's unlikely that my actions would lead Jews to feel I'm putting down their faith.
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> > there could be a subset of readers that think otherwise than your subset proposed.
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> True.
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20051105/msgs/656322.html
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> > In this post, there is an offered link by the poster at the end of that post that goes to John 5. There are verses in that link that are in question that I am asking for you to post a repudiation to. I see no post by you asking for the poster to revise it
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> No, but a deputy did sanction that post:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20051105/msgs/656375.html
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> BobMr. Hsung,
You wrote,[...I'm not responding to all of your notifications because I consider the outcomes you fear to be unlikely...].
There could be a subset of readers to think that what you wrote is a lie based on the dictionary used here to decide what words mean and that dictionary says that a false statement could be a lie without the person intending to deceive, but the person could intend to deceive.
Those readers could have a rational basis to think that what you wrote is a lie because you have posted your reason for not responding to the notifications that my reminders posted here show, which span years. You gave your reason as that it would be good for you and the community as a whole to do so. That is different from that you now say that you do not respond to those notifications from me because you consider the outcomes by me to be unlikely.
The notifications are according to your TOS here in regards to that when sees a statement that is against your rules, and you allow it to be seen as supportive, that the notification procedure could be used to alert you of an uncivil and unsupportive statement such as one that puts down or accuses or leads one to feel that their faith is being put down or is an anti-Semitic statement and language that could offend others and more. It is not the outcome as if , let's say, the poster that is being defamed will kill themselves if the statement is allowed to be seen as supportive, and you and your deputies of record do not think so, so you will allow it to stand, but could anyone know that, if that is what you mean by the outcome? It is what is posted that can be seen that determines if a statement is uncivil and not supportive, as to if the statement puts down or accuses or is anti-Semitic or such as you say in your rules. I took you at your word when you posted your rule and here is a link to the rule.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061018/msgs/699224.html
As to if your intent is to deceive, that could be made in the minds of readers that understand how intent is determined. They could also see that you also stated something like that if others see you not respond to me, then they might not respond to me. Those readers that consider what you wrote that is in question here to be a lie, could also see what could go to being your intent And when they see that you gave permission to the poster that has posted the link to John 5 to keep posting links that have anti-Semitic propaganda in it by you telling the poster to revise it by posting a substitute link while the original link with the anti-Semitism remains to be seen, they could put that together with what they think is a lie by you here in relation to why you have not responded to my notifications spanning years. You see, your rule in your TOS/FAQ that I have never seen to be changed by you, is to not post what could lead someone to feel that they are being put down, even if they are quoting someone else, and a link can be quoting someone else. This subset of readers could think that your intent is to accommodate antisemitism by giving a system where a poster can post anti-Semitism in a link, at their will, then you say to revise it and they post something else and then go on to the next link with anti-Semitic propaganda in it and repeat the system over and over. By doing that, those readers that think that what you have posted here in question to be a lie, could also think that you gave the system to that poster to create and develop anti-Semitic hate here and also since there is defamation posted here against me that can be seen as supportive where it is originally posted, those readers could also think that an intent in what can be seen could be to inflict emotional distress upon me and Jews throughout the world, for the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive, goes to all Jews, not Just me. And worse, because you say that you do not sanction what is archived, those readers could think that if I sent a notification to you and all of your deputies and you all were indifferent to the notification, and then it was archived, it was then you and your deputies of record that allowed it to be archived, which could be thought to constitute deceit by those readers that think that what you posted here to me that is in question, is a lie.
Lou Pilder
poster:Lou Pilder
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URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1072509.html