Posted by Lou Pilder on October 15, 2014, at 11:51:47
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on October 15, 2014, at 11:07:45
> > > you state that support takes precedence. That means what it means. In what you have written here, what takes precedence is what in your thinking will be good for this community as a whole. In allowing what is not supportive to be posted without sanction, a subset of readers could think that you have lied when you posted that support takes precedence.
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> > True, a subset of readers could think that.
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> > A subset of readers could also think that I'm supporting the community as a whole by giving it an opportunity to deal with issues like hate.
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> I'd like to revise that:
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> A subset of readers could also think that I'm not sanctioning those posts because the outcomes you fear are unlikely.
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> Bob
Mr Hsiung,
You wrote:
[..I'd like to revise that:
A subset of readers could also think that I'm not sanctioning those posts because the outcomes you fear are unlikely...]Now there could be or there could not be a rationale basis for that subset of readers to think that. The issue is that I am objecting that you are allowing statements to be seen as civil and supportive that could arouse antisemitic feelings, lead Jews to feel put down, lead Jews to feel that their faith is being put down and statements that put down Jews or Judaism itself and that you think that it will be good for his community as a whole to do so. As to if that is likely for me as a Jew to feel put down, or to feel that Judaism is being put down when I read the anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed here to be seen as supportive by you and your deputies of record, I do not see any rational basis for anyone to think that it is unlikely for a Jew to feel put down when they see anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed to be seen as civil and supportive by you here. If there are Jews that do not feel put down when they see the anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed to be seen as supportive by you and your deputies of record, that does not mean that I have to not feel put down when I read those statements being allowed to be seen as supportive here.
The defamation toward the Jews in anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed to be seen as supportive here, goes to all Jews, not just me as a Jew here. And a subset of readers could think
that you are using a pretext to allow the anti-Semitic hate to stand. I think those readers could have a rational reason to think that because you keep changing what you have written, which could lead a subset of readers to think that malice is what is driving you to keep the anti-Semitic statements to be seen as civil and supportive by you and your deputies of record here. They could have a rational basis to think that because you keep changing what you write in an attempt to justify leaving anti-Semitic propaganda to stand where defamation to a group of people can cause harm and those readers could think that you know that and are doing it anyway.
Lou Pilder
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