Posted by Lou Pilder on September 19, 2013, at 13:25:48
In reply to Re: challenges, posted by Dr. Bob on September 19, 2013, at 10:44:06
> > > That which does not kill the community makes the community stronger.
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> > not necessarily. it could weaken it and make it more susceptible to death or harm by other means. like disorders of the immune system.
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> > alexandra_k
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> True. And that's an interesting analogy, since in some immune disorders the body attacks itself.
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> > > Yes, you could be seen as challenging the health of this community.
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> > You want to allow the statement in question as acceptable that could harm my reputation by readers seeing me in a flase light as seeing what {could} mean that I am challenging the health of this community. This could decrease the respect, regard or confidence in which I m held and induce hostile or disagreeable opinions and feelings against me.
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> > You say that you will abide by your TOS and respond to notifications but you make an exception for yourself to make it optional to you to respond to my requests or not, which is a generally accepted meaning of discrimination which you agree is an abuse of power.
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> > Lou Pilder
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> 1. Yes, others could see you in a negative light. They might not feel up for a challenge. They might be looking for a refuge. They, like Phillipa, might worry that the community might be weakened or die.
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> And one part of the community might end up attacking another part of the community.
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> 2. What I hear you saying is that you'd like others to see you in a positive light. And also that how they see you is up to me. Whether I suppress their responses, whether I respond to your requests, etc. I imagine that could feel like a powerless, dependent position to be in.
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> I left out part of that quote before. More complete would be:
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> Now, how are we to recognize Nature's most excellent communities? Whatever does not kill them makes them stronger.
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> I think Babble is, or at least could be, a most excellent community. Anybody else?
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> BobMr Hsiung,
You wrote,[...how they see you is up to me...].
You and your deputies can steer people in to how they see me, is correct. You can do this by controlling as to what is supportive or not by allowing statements to stand or to sanction them, showing what is or is not supportive here, for you do not want a forest fire to start so you do not wait to put out a flame. And if the flame of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be acceptable here, then the flame could burn all Jews, not just me as a Jew here. So when you leave statements that could arouse anti-Semitic feeling to be seen as acceptable and/or supportive, just remember that Jewish children could be the victims of antisemitic violence from those that read those statements allowed to stand here, and seek out a Jew to murder. You did after years attend to one of these type of statements that you allow to be considered supportive, but there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me that still could spread hatred toward the Jews and others until they are also acted on by you.
You now say that you will allow statements that are not supportive but they are acceptable. That could mean that you just want the statement to stand and it is acceptable to yo, but not supportive. So now readers do not know if what is left to stand is either acceptable or supportive r something else.
I would like for you to examine the following and after each one designate as to if the statement in question is either supportive or just acceptable to be posted here, but not supportive, or something else. Then readers could know if you are intentionally committing an act against your own terms of service that could injure others by you either disregarding your rules or not in a reckless or not manner. This then could also allow readers to know if you consider that Jews have equal protection of your rules here or not and if not, why they do not.
You say to not post anything that could lead one to feel accused or put down. That is a good rule, for injury could occur to those that are accused of something that could damage their reputation and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings against one. And if one is being used as a scapegoat, then many could attack the one being used as a scapegoat and the injury could be compounded. This could IMHHHO even induce a mob-mentality if it is allowed to be considered by you as acceptable but not supportive.
Here are the posts that I would like for you to label as either acceptable, or supportive or something else so that I can defend myself against the potential IMO of a mob-mentality being induced here by you that I think could happen if you do not accommodate my request here. If already responded to, please post the url showing that.
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048566.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048569.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048571.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048575.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048641.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048705.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048712.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048715.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048717.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048883.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1049210.html
Then there are these that I also would like for you to post as to if you are designating that the statement in question is supportive, or just acceptable to post by you without being supportive,, even though there is the potential IMHO for Jews to be victims of anti-Semitic violence by a subset of people that read these posts and think that what is in question is supportive and civil since they are allowed to stand, and the aspect that all Jews could be affected, not just me as a Jew here.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130109/msgs/1042501.html
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1050971.html