Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2013, at 15:38:10
In reply to Lou's reply-The Hsiung-Pilder discussion- » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2013, at 8:43:16
> > > I could be seen as the subject person and it then becomes my postings that could be thought to be those that challenge the health of the community.
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> > > I am trying to save lives and prevent addictions and life-ruining conditions and bring life and life more abundantly to readers here. I am trying to offer educational facts to parents so that they could make a more informed decision as to drug their child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. That is supportive in any community
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> > Yes, you could be seen as challenging the health of this community. In fact, I see you that way myself. But it's not necessarily a bad thing to be challenged. That which does not kill the community makes the community stronger.
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> > I bet others here would also like to save lives and prevent life-ruining conditions. Have you considered working with them?
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> > Bob
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> Mr Hsiung,
> You wrote,[...Yes, you could be seen as challenging the health of this community...].
> You say that it is acceptable for this to be said about me here, but not supportive.
> It is not what a statement could mean that can not be seen that determines the acceptability here, but it is what can be seen that makes that determination. Readers can know it when it is seen, and not until it is seen can one know it, as you say in your TOS here.
> What can be seen is what it is. And here the statement that I am [...challenging the health of this community...] can be seen as it is, for it is what it is. Now if you want to say that it could mean something else, so what? Here is your rule:
> [...Please don't be sarcastic, treat injury or death lightly, suggest that others harm themselves or others, jump to conclusions about others, post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down---post information that you know to be false, exaggerate or overgeneralize--Even if you're quoting someone else...].
> You want to allow the statement in question as acceptable that could harm my reputation by readers seeing me in a flase light as seeing what {could} mean that I am challenging the health of this community. This could decrease the respect, regard or confidence in which I m held and induce hostile or disagreeable opinions and feelings against me.
> Now looking at your own TOS here, one sees
> [...please do not jump to conclusions...do not post anything that {could} lead one to feel accused or put down...].
> Now you say that the statement could or could not be a bad thing. But it still {could} be either. And readers could see me in a false light when they perceive me in that I am challenging the health of this community and think in their mind the generally accepted meaning of that used historically and I could be blamed. This blaming of me is *not acceptable to me*, my friend, no matter how you want to pervert your own rules to accommodate this here. If this is acceptable by you, then anyone could post anything that could lead one to feel accused or put down when your own rule says that can not post anything of that nature that {could} lead one to feel that.
> You say that you will abide by your TOS and respond to notifications but you make an exception for yourself to make it optional to you to respond to my requests or not, which is a generally accepted meaning of discrimination which you agree is an abuse of power. You say that it may be good for you and the community as a whole for you to have the option to leave my requests outstanding. Now you say it may be that the poster of the statement in question meant something else other than what can be seen. He may also have not meant anything else other than what readers could think when the see the statement in question, and the rule is what {could} lead another to feel...
> If this is allowed by you, then hate could be posted to abound here because you could say that the one that posted the hate could have meant something else.
> Lou Pilder
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> Mr Hsiung,
You say that it is acceptable {to you} for the statement in question to be posted here about me. And I say to you that by you allowing the statement to be considered to be acceptable, you could allow stigmatization of me to abound here. And you could allow scapegoating to abound here. And you could allow hate to abound here. And you could allow all other members now to post the same thing about me here, for theirs is the acceptance of the leader. Now all members can post not only that statement about me, but whatever is {analogous} to it by the nature that you say that statements that are analogous to an example of one of your rules are also the same as.
Now the statement says,[...Unfortunately, it only takes one member to...that could challenge the health of this community...]. It says {unfortunately}. This means that it could be bad for the community as to what I post here, and harm could come to it. And there is not a citation to substantiate the claim, so I can not respond to show the context of whatever is what I post that could cause harm to this community. And since there is not specified what I am posting, the posting in question could be from my postings from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me, and that {could} be what the poster is using to blame me for the unfortunate consequences that the poster leads people to think that will come to them for allowing me to be a member here. That goes back to the ancient charge against the Jews of causing the Black Death that killed 1/2 of the European people in the 1300s. The hateful charge against the Jews blamed them that they poisoned the wells, but unbeknownst to the accusers of the Jews, the plague was caused a rat flea that carried the infection and bit the people.
The phrase is used to day to accuse people of challenging the health of the ocean community and the agricultural community. These accusers say that certain groups dump industrial waste and pesticides that challenge the health of the life of the agricultural and oceanic community. And maybe they do, but I say to you that my posting here is not polluting or dumping waste here. What I am posting could bring those seeking to have the liberty restored to them, and be made free from the shackles of addiction and depression, and to those that want a new life so that they can sing a new song, but have their liberty of knowing from me taken away from them when I am prohibited here from posting from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me. And those prohibitions to me here can stop the liberty of those that see death knocking on their door, death from suicide, death from serotonin syndrome, death from heart failure, death from kidney failure, death from liver failure and death from blood disease and the combining of mind-altering drugs that are promoted here. I do not have the liberty to post here what I need to have those people in bondage to the drugs delivered from captivity that want a new life, free from being scared that the drugs will kill them. And I will continue to try to have the Light that is not allowed to be turned on here at least be known to readers that I know of a Light that could give one the liberty to be led out of the darkness of depression and addiction. And I will persevere even through the false charge against me of challenging the health of this community. For I will not be moved. I will not accept what is unacceptable. I will fight to the end. For I say to you, give me Liberty or give me death.
Lou Pilder
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