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Posted by metamorphosis on January 30, 2009, at 4:44:14
I'm quiet interested in learning more on this topic.Anyone please chime in on books and other resources that have been helpful and you would highly recommend.It's important to know how the medications we take effect the brain.I'm an avid reader.
Posted by SLS on January 30, 2009, at 5:24:45
In reply to books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology, posted by metamorphosis on January 30, 2009, at 4:44:14
> I'm quiet interested in learning more on this topic.Anyone please chime in on books and other resources that have been helpful and you would highly recommend.It's important to know how the medications we take effect the brain.I'm an avid reader.
I would start with Stephen Stahl's "Essential Psychopharmacology". It is a book I should get for myself, but...
- Scott
Posted by yxibow on January 30, 2009, at 10:36:44
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology » metamorphosis, posted by SLS on January 30, 2009, at 5:24:45
> > I'm quiet interested in learning more on this topic.Anyone please chime in on books and other resources that have been helpful and you would highly recommend.It's important to know how the medications we take effect the brain.I'm an avid reader.
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> I would start with Stephen Stahl's "Essential Psychopharmacology". It is a book I should get for myself, but...
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> - ScottYes.... if I was able to concentrate and read more on books I would as well... and there are a few others by Stahl as well, he is generally regarded as an expert in this field.
-- Jay
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 30, 2009, at 11:02:39
In reply to books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology, posted by metamorphosis on January 30, 2009, at 4:44:14
I really like Goodman & Gilman's "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics".
Lar
Posted by SLS on January 30, 2009, at 12:52:16
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology » metamorphosis, posted by Larry Hoover on January 30, 2009, at 11:02:39
> I really like Goodman & Gilman's "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics".
That was considered a bible of sorts years ago. Have they been coming out with revisions?
- Scott
Posted by SLS on January 30, 2009, at 12:59:42
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology » SLS, posted by yxibow on January 30, 2009, at 10:36:44
Hi Jay.
> Yes.... if I was able to concentrate and read more on books I would as well... and there are a few others by Stahl as well, he is generally regarded as an expert in this field.
I love books, even though I wasn't able to read a single paragraph for so many years. I kept buying books hoping that remission was just around the corner. I cry when I see my shelves filled with the books I have accumulated and never opened. Most of them are obsolete now.
The thing that is so interesting is that I have had the ability to write without having the ability to read. Do you find this so as well?
- Scott
Posted by Larry Hoover on January 31, 2009, at 13:02:04
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology, posted by SLS on January 30, 2009, at 12:52:16
> > I really like Goodman & Gilman's "The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics".
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> That was considered a bible of sorts years ago. Have they been coming out with revisions?
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> - ScottMy copy is the 10th edition, published in 2001. Looking at the history, they've published revisions every five or six years for a long time. I hope the book hasn't fallen out of favour. We're overdue for a revision. I wasn't aware of that when I posted.
Lar
Posted by diego on February 1, 2009, at 12:48:49
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology » SLS, posted by Larry Hoover on January 31, 2009, at 13:02:04
Some years back I got a Goodman and Gilman's on CD. I think I may have been part of a beta tesing program because I don't have it anymore. Or I just didn't like it and sent it back.
Anyway, I'm still using my 8th ed. Save those old versions, too! The newer versions eliminate topics like barbituate metabolism and the like.
Posted by Larry Hoover on February 1, 2009, at 23:15:58
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology » Larry Hoover, posted by diego on February 1, 2009, at 12:48:49
Good point. I've got the 8th ed. as well, and there are substantial differences. Revisions don't just add material, there is often substantial removal.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on February 1, 2009, at 23:24:36
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology » SLS, posted by Larry Hoover on January 31, 2009, at 13:02:04
I thought the 10th edition of Goodman and Gillman's was the most recent available, based on Amazon. The publisher has the 11th ed. published in 2006, and I can't seem to tell which edition Amazon's sellers are actually offering for sale. So, if you do decide to buy one, be aware that older editions usually go for 30-40% of the newest one. It's worth verifying the edition.
Lar
Posted by yxibow on February 5, 2009, at 0:54:18
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology » yxibow, posted by SLS on January 30, 2009, at 12:59:42
> Hi Jay.
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> > Yes.... if I was able to concentrate and read more on books I would as well... and there are a few others by Stahl as well, he is generally regarded as an expert in this field.
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> I love books, even though I wasn't able to read a single paragraph for so many years. I kept buying books hoping that remission was just around the corner. I cry when I see my shelves filled with the books I have accumulated and never opened. Most of them are obsolete now.
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> The thing that is so interesting is that I have had the ability to write without having the ability to read. Do you find this so as well?
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> - ScottIts threefold, one my visual problems, and two OCD, and three short term memory issues that arent 100% the Valium, but involve more complex issues as well.
I can read magazines, my attention span is enough if its something that I find intellectually stimulating.
Digesting books like I did in college even with having to read passages over again (OCD still) is not the state today.
Writing -- hmm... and talking... I have word finding problems and spelling mistakes that I didn't have before -- remembering a song or a movie or a four syllable word, and its just right there but I can't push through a lot.
It doesn't mean my intellect is gone, its just in a twist -- long term and medium term memory is there if I take a breath and go back (of course I need to remember to 'live in the present', but that's another story)... short and very short term memory... I can be thinking oh, I want to look up X on Wikipedia and then I'm at the computer and I'm like... why am I here ? And then it hits me about a minute later.
There's also a bit of if I really want to do something, I'll do it.... kinda there my life. Motivation, to read and write. I mean college was a structured place, something good for someone with OCD actually, and though I didn't always like writing things, I found myself capable of writing 20 or 30 page papers (of course setting the font at 13 poin.... well... heh...anyhow). As you can see in this paragraph, I'm also well known for run-on sentences and pages.So, its a mixed bag I guess.
I'm frustrated I'm not as motivated on work I'm doing through therapy that I should be doing at home -- but that's a whole different story, I think I tend to avoid and go back into a shell at times.
Anyhow that's sort of it in a glance.
-- Jay
Posted by SLS on February 5, 2009, at 1:43:01
In reply to Re: books/priodicals/websites on psychopharmacology » SLS, posted by yxibow on February 5, 2009, at 0:54:18
Hi Jay.
I forget sometimes how pervasive your symptoms are. You are one resilient SOB.
> I can be thinking oh, I want to look up X on Wikipedia and then I'm at the computer and I'm like... why am I here ? And then it hits me about a minute later.
LOL <sympathy laugh>
> I'm frustrated I'm not as motivated on work I'm doing through therapy that I should be doing at home -- but that's a whole different story, I think I tend to avoid and go back into a shell at times.
My degree of "laziness" is a function of the severity of my depression and the loss of interest and motivation that go along with it. Yes, for those things I had the greatest of interest in, came enough motivation to break through the wall of procrastination (initiation of activity), despite low energy. Anything that I deemed to be a chore, I seldom found the energy to perform - not enough motivation. It FEELS like laziness or some sort of character weakness, but I must remind myself that it isn't. For me, it is not a matter of choice. It is a matter of biology. I try not to beat up on myself too much.
I also find living in the moment very difficult with depression. The beast is in your face no matter what you attempt to think, feel, or do. So, it becomes a challenge to be in the moment without allowing my condition to invade my consciousness. I find myself deciding to "wait until I get better" before planning to do things. Once I emerge out of depression, I am SO there in the moment. Life becomes a carnival of things to experience. I interact with my environments, both internal and external, in real time as they are changing. Not to brag, but as far as "functional" I.Q. is concerned, when I reach remission, I genuinely scare the hell out of myself. I'll find my balance, though. It is just one of those things I have never had to deal with as an adult.
You are in my prayers.
- Scott
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