Posted by rayww on August 30, 2004, at 0:20:23 [reposted on August 30, 2004, at 1:10:31 | original URL]
In reply to the nature of god, posted by alexandra_k on August 28, 2004, at 19:16:33
I agree that meditation is essential in our world of frenzy to achieve some sense of peace. But peace can also be found in the midst of trauma, stress, and distress.
Peace, forgiveness, love, etc can be a gift of the spirit that can come into our body and displace other negative emotions. It has happened millions of times to millions of people, and there are millions of stories that document it.
The state of nothingness you refer to is a state of conscousness only. There are three types of nothingness states that I am aware of.
1. When you change something of substance into a mental image of nothing. (Satan would have us believe God is not)
2. When you enter the sub conscious state of nothingness, or blank out your mind (nirvana, is that what you call it?)
3. When we realize the nothingness of ourselves as compared to God. http://scriptures.lds.org/hel/12/7#7I choose to believe there is no space where nothingness actually exists. http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/88/37#37
Berkeley and Freud each had an idea about the nature of God, but had they examined the evidence and witnesses that testify of the existance of God, they may have beleived differently. For some it is given to know, and for others to believe on their words.
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=d&c 46:13-14&search.x=28&search.y=9I can say I know there is a real live God even though I have not seen Him. I can also say I believe in the recorded words (evidence and witnesses) of those who have seen Him.
Others can say they don't believe, or they can say they believe in something entirely different, and that is all right. We may all choose to believe how we may. Even when all truth is made known we may still choose whether or not to believe. Why? Because we are capable of choice.
What is more powerful, choice or nothingness? What actually gets you farther? Making good choices, or entering into your own nothingness? Is this a real state of being or an imagined state of being? I am asking these questions because I am interested in this topic. I want to know what is gained from a person trying to leave this world and become only himself, in a meditation of nothingness. There has to be something more to this than nothing, or people wouldn't believe so strongly in it.
One more question, when one achieves the desired state within him or herself are they inspired to go out and care for one another, and spread this peace throughout the world by showing love and compassion by their choices and actions? How does this all connect to reality?
I hope you don't take offence by my questions. I sincerely wish to know how this makes reality a better place to dwell.
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