Posted by alexandra_k on August 29, 2004, at 19:44:53 [reposted on August 30, 2004, at 1:10:31 | original URL]
In reply to Re: the nature of god, posted by nicolas on August 28, 2004, at 21:33:44
> Have you been reading post-modern philosophy? Isn't the term 'language game' from Wittgenstein?
Yes, indeed I was referring to 'language games in the Wittgensteinian sense. Though I was also making reference to an earlier work "The Tractatus"
"6.43 ...If good or bad willing changes the world, it can only change the limits of the world, not the facts; not the things that can be expressed in language. In brief the world must thereby become quite another. It must so to speak wax or wane as a whole. The world of the happy is quite another than that of the unhappy.
6.431 As in death, too, the world does not change, but ceases.
6.4311 Death is not an event in life. Death is not lived through. If by eternity is understood not endless temporal duration but timelessness, then he lives eternally who lives in the present. Our life is endless the way our visual field is without limit.
6.4312 The temporal immortality of the human soul, that is to say, its eternal survival after death, is not only in no way guaranteed, but this assumption in the first place will not do for us what we always tried to make it do. Is a riddle solved by the fact that I survive for ever? Is this eternal life not as enigmatic as our present one?"
> Anyhow, I agree about the limitations of concepts. Fostering a sense and commitment to lovingkindness, however, is an action and a way of being, not a concept.Yes, Wittgenstein in the "Philosophical Investigations" considers that religious discourse isn't to be understood as making truth evaluable claims about the world (a position which is known as Wittgensteinian Fideism). He considers that instead, religious discourse involves a set of practices, or activities. An action and way of being in the world, indeed.
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