Posted by liliths on December 9, 2006, at 6:45:32 [reposted on December 10, 2006, at 23:43:14 | original URL]
In reply to Re: non-opiate replacement for hydrococone? TO ALL » liliths, posted by Quintal on December 8, 2006, at 21:17:23
hi Q,
I am so grateful for how hard you've tried to help. Believe me, I know you know it's not about 'getting high', it's about not being depressed
I will definitely look into kramtom - I think, just as the oxycotin, it is something I have looked at with curiousity before :)
you've been wonderful... as I said to Phillipa earlier, it is those of you on this board supporting me that's basically keeping me going. There simply isn't anyone else who can understand.
you're a blessing
thanks again
namaste,
lilith> This got me thinking about Kratom. I assumed it would produce positive results ona drugs test, but apparently not:
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> 'One example is kratom, a substitute for the prescription pain killer OxyContin, a popular drug with addicts seeking a high. Kratom's leaves can be smoked or put in a tea ball and brewed, and the resultant concoction drunk.
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> Kratom looks like marijuana and smells like sweet tea, but it produces the same effects as OxyContin: an opium-like high. “You can be actively high and still pass a drug test,” Talbot says. Talbot says that most police officers aren’t aware of it, and, in fact, none of the other experts interviewed for this story had heard of kratom or various other substitute drugs.'
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> http://www.securitymanagement.com/library/001830_2.html
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> There's more info on Kratom here: http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml
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> Basically it's a legal (for the moment) herb that produces effects similar to opiates and cocaine - the classic 'speedball'. I've tried it myself and it is very nice ;-).
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> It may be hard to find in the US, though there are sources - mostly online head shops: http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse.asp?Category=Kratom.
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> Q
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> BTW I'm not trying to imply you need to get 'high' with it every day. Perhaps just a small daily dose of a tincture of kratom would be enough to relieve your depression? It's easy to make alcoholic extracts yourelf using vodka and dried leaves. There's also the option of visting a herbalist who may be able to devise something more sophisticated and advise you better?
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> Q
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