Posted by tealady on November 19, 2003, at 20:27:33
In reply to renal problem ? » tealady, posted by Francesco on November 19, 2003, at 15:20:31
> Thanks for all the links and comments.
> I didn't understand reading the links if tryptophan is supposed to be the cause of "interstitial cystitis" or if patient with it shouldn't take it.No..that doc specialised in IC for a while...treated thru amino acids and diet etc.,researched, wrote many papers,and a book on it. ( I "think" her IC diet is very different to the higher protein, tyrosine supps I'm on, not sure though)
She was only referring to when she did treat these patients she did amino acid profiles...and that she personally is uncomfortable with using tryptophan because some individuals(not all) may metabolize it into undesirable byproducts...as well as the EMS thing.
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> I'm asking because in the last three months I have had sever problems with polyuria (I'm going to see an urologist next monday) while I beginned to take tryptophan only one week ago.
>Did you change anything 3 months ago? Start any new supps/drugs/ aminos? around that time? Anything change in the past 4 or 5 months even as it can take a while for levels to build up?
> In the recent past I tried also to begin to take Prozac and Anafranil (in two different occasions) and experienced similar syntoms (Eosinophilia-Myalgia Syndrome).
Perhaps you have highish serotonin levels anyway?
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> Once again: is this syndrome supposed to be caused by tripthophan assumption or tripthophan assumption can “unmask” it ?
>I don't think it's an unmasking thing.
I would THINK that EMS could be detected by a blood test for elevated eosinophils?...only guessing though.
And just from reading it seems it is saying that excess serotonin levels is dangerous in itself...
> In the last two weeks I tried several different supplements and I seem to over-react (compared to the average of users) to every of them. I’m wondering if all this can be a sign of a renal problem.I think that is probably jumping to conclusions, but ask your urologist when you see him for reassurance.
Some here are using larger doses than most would..as in orthomolecular psychiatry..but not everyone tolerates or metabolizes these supps the same.
Personally I can't tolerate more than 500mg tyrosine broken into 2 doses per day for example...and B6, I used to only be able to take around 25mg or I'd trigger a migraine. I also think a lot is about balance.
Having adequate magnesium and a multiB ( with say at least 25mg B5, B3 and 15mg B1,B6...or that level) helps. The B's are needed in helping your body utilize the serotonin/trypt. Probably some extra niacinamide and perhaps TMG?..then you could take LESS of the tryptophan and utilize it better. Have you tried taking a much lower amount?
I would also assume the levels would build up in your body?I really don't know much about this, just put it up for discussion. I do know I'm lowish on serotonin at present from symptoms, and I'm still considering tryptophan. I've just got other things to try first.
My personal view on the effects of pdrugs on my body is even more negative.
Jan
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