Posted by Lou Pilder on January 11, 2015, at 12:29:37
In reply to Lou's reply to Scott-oarganighzed?, posted by Lou Pilder on June 13, 2014, at 8:12:56
> > > > Do you feel that hate is institutionalized on Psycho-Babble in the same way it is in the social groups described in the CNN article?
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> > > > - Scott
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> > > Scott,
> > > Your question is as how this site, organized and administrated by Mr Hsiung and his deputies, is in some way like the hate groups described in the article from CNN:
> > > http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/15/opinion/blee-hate-groups/index.html
> > > When a group shapes racial hatred, it then is like what the author describes. This is done by teaching and persuading readers in a way that can lead to, as in this case, hatred toward the Jews. When that happens, the readers could tragically act out what they have been led to believe by the owner of the web site.
> > > Hate groups against Jews are spawned when the site intentionally develops or contributes to anti-Jewish thought. In the case right now, the statement {No non-Christian will enter heaven}, although just one of many anti-Semitic statements allowed to be seen as civil here and also will be good for this community as a whole as being allowed to stand without the owner posting a repudiation to the post where the statement appears in its thread, could lead to having a subset of readers think that the site is allowing degradation of the Jews, dehumanizing the Jews as the statement is analogous to:{Jews will not enter heaven or even, {only Christians will enter heaven}. The statement is a part of the foundation of hatred toward the Jews, as the statement puts down Jews as inferior to Christians.
> > > By allowing the statement to be seen as that it will be good for this community as a whole as not having a repudiation posted to it in the thread where it appears, could induce other defamatory statements against the Jews, for Mr. Hsiung's rule is that if there is not a sanction to the post, then it is not against the rules by him, and a subset of readers could see that it is not sanctioned visibly, and not jump to a conclusion that because Mr. Hsiung sanctioned a vulgar word by the poster, then that constitutes a sanction to the post in question. They may be of the intellect that not until they see it can they know it, and the sanction that Mr. Hsiung says is a "indirect" sanction, can not be seen by them, for there is not an explanation in the thread where the statement appears to lead to that conclusion that Mr. Hsiung says sanctions the statement in question. The potentially offending word is separate from the put down of the Jews as can be seen in {No non-Christian can enter heaven}, for there is not mention of that in the "indirect" sanction by Mr. Hsiung that he is attempting other readers to accept here. This is important because {redacted by respondent}.
> > > But be it as it may be, readers could see the statement as it can be seen, could lead other to think that Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record are responsible for developing anti-Semitic hatred here as that Mr Hsiung not only states that he does what will be good for this community as a whole, but asks for readers to trust him at that. Now if Mr. Hsiung was neutral in respect to posting here, that could be different. But when the site is loaded against Jews, in particular but not limited to the fact that I am prohibited by Mr. Hsiung to post from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me, which prevents me from posting a repudiation to the statement {No non-Christian will enter heaven}, then readers could be persuaded in one way of thinking by not allowing readers to be informed by me from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me. And it is so easy to persuade the uninformed. Its so easy.
> > > Lou
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> > Friends,
> > The statement in discussion, {No non-Christian will enter heaven}, that can be seen as being civil here and also that it will be good for this community as a whole to not have a repudiation posted to it in the thread where it appears, for that is what Mr. Hsiung's stated rationale for what he does here. But what rationale could be used by anyone to say that anti-Semitism in posts unsanctioned will be good for this community as a whole?
> > Now here is partial outline of some of the statements being also allowed to be posted here without a repudiation posted to it in the thread where the statement appears, which could lead readers to think that the anti-Semitic statements are not against Mr. Hsiung's rules here. And because those statements are allowed to stand, readers could think that not only are the anti-Jewish thoughts that the statements could purport are being validated and ratified by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but since not even one of the up to 6 deputies posted any objection there to the statements, that a subset of readers could think that a complicity as a design to humiliate and ridicule Jews could be the intention of Mr. Hsiung and those deputies that went along with leaving those statements to stand.
> > Lou
> > [ admin, 1046351 ]
> > Now when you use the search box at the end of the page here, look for the 1046351 in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line.
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> Scott,
> You asked if I feel that hate is institutionalized here in the same way it is in social groups described in the CNN article.
> One of the keys to substantiating that is to examine this site to see if there is {organization} able to be seen. Some of the components of that are dictatorship, oppression, malevolence and discrimination. Then to see if there are hatreds stirred so that in this case, Jews could become easy victims. But it is much more than that., for Mr. Hsiung states here that one is to consider actions by the administration to "come from all of us". That could lead a subset of readers to think that there had to be some sort of complicity involved between Mr. Hsiung and his deputies to allow anti-Semitic statements to stand here which could lead a subset of readers to think that there is a common plan designed to ignore their own rules to accommodated hatred toward the Jews.
> Lou
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> Scott,
In your question as to if hate is institutionalized on Psycho-Babble in the same way it is in the social groups described in the CNN article, this site has some differences, let's say, to a web site chaired by a non-mental health professional. In this site, the psychiatrist has training to know how psychological harm could come to someone here and could know the tactics used to degrade people and how the adverse effects of discrimination could bring stigmatization to the subject person that could have others think of the subject person or persons that is the recipient of discrimination to be considered to be inferior, as here where Mr. Hsiung says that if he does not intervene where an anti-Semitic statement can be seen as supportive, that it will be good for the community as a whole in his thinking to not intervene and for others to try and trust him at that, for he will appreciate it.
There are many even to this day that say that they are doing what will be good by committing mass-murder of Jews. It is this statement by Mr. Hsiung to trust him in that anti-Semitic propaganda can be seen as supportive where it is originally posted for him to not respond to my notifications that could stop the hate from being seen as supportive here. In relation to the other social groups described by CNN, I do not see any of those groups that are chaired by a mental health professional to allow defamation or racial propaganda or anti-Judaism propaganda to be seen as supportive. In fact, in some jurisdictions sites that intend to degrade or cause psychological harm to a person because of their race , religion, national origin, sexual orientation and such could be charged with a hate-crime if it is motivated by prejudice to allow , let's say, anti-Semitic thought to be seen as being encouraged or developed by the site owner. In some jurisdictions, bloggers that defame Islam are sentenced to death.
Lou
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