Posted by Lou Pilder on November 10, 2013, at 8:30:13
In reply to Lou's reply-schoemeigh » 10derheart, posted by Lou Pilder on October 21, 2013, at 22:02:57
> > Lou,
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> > IMO, as long as you see your often-used description, i.e:
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> > >>statements that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings
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> > as factual, "plainly seen," obvious, and/or downplay/completely disregard the word **could** no meaningful dialog will take place. To me, this means they could or they could not, and if they could not, Dr. Bob and others - maybe all others but you - may read these posts as not anti-Semitic by any far stretch of the imagination. I think you write this over and over again as a given, when it is anything but that.
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> > As long as you cannot imagine or entertain the idea that for many Babblers, the statements you cite in posts are NOT...
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> > >>plainly visible [here are] statements that put down Jews
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> > no meaningful dialog will take place. I find when I am passionate about a thing, those are the times I must get myself to imagine the completely opposite POV in order to have meaningful dialog. I do that with you, the best I possibly can, but I just still can't conceive of these things as anti-Semitism.
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> > >>posts that put down Jews are anti-Semitic posts by the agreement of Mr.[sic] Hsiung.
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> > Did Dr. Bob say the above...exactly? I thought he said he could see how you could think one particular statement in one post *might* or *could* cause Jews or others to feel put down. Am I mistaken? Did he say an actual (not hypothetically) post or posts are anti-Semitic? Could you show me that?
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> > 10,
> You wrote,[...could you show me that?...]
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041218/msgs/439314.html
> > Lou
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> 10,
Now that you see what is plainly visible above in the link that does state that Mr Hsiung agrees with me that statements that could put down Jews are anti-Semitic statements, I have the following concerns and if you could post answers to them, I think that could go a long way in helping Jews from being victims of anti-Semitic violence that IMHO could come from this site by the nature that anti-Semitic statements are plainly visible here and could be seen by a subset of readers as conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of this community and supportive. And more than that, there are statements that IMHO could induce hostile and disparaging opinions and feelings against me here that a subset of readers IMO could be influenced by to target a Jew or Islamic person or others that are not Christians for harm by the nature that this community has these statements that could put down Jews and Islamic people being plainly seen as that they will be good for this community as a whole because Mr Hsiung's terms of service state that in his thinking he wants readers to trust him in that what he does, or I guess what he doesn't do, will be good for this community as a whole. And since he states that one match could start a forest fire so that he does not wait to sanction a statement, unsanctioned statements could cause a subset of people to think that those statements are supportive because Mr. Hsiung states that support takes precedence and not to post what could put down those of other faiths. As to statements that do put down Jews and others being allowed to stand, IMHO there could be a subset of people that could think that antisemitism is state-sponsored here. This is part of how I understand, and other psychologists also, how hate groups develop over time. I am here to stop this community from allowing hatred to be allowed to stand here. As to anti-Semitic statements here being allowed to stand here, I ask you:
A. Do you agree with Mr Hsiung in that it will be good for this community as a whole to allow those statements to stand?
B. In this statement in particular, if you think that it will be good for it to stand, what good will there be if the statement continues to be allowed to stand? The statement says something like:
[...Christianity is the only religion that has a path back to the Father...].
The statement puts down Jews and Islamic people and Hindu people and others that have a religion that has a path back to the Father that is not a Christian religion. The statement insult those religion and there IMHO and knowledge are subsets of people that are in those religions being put down that could feel greatly offended when they read the statement that says something like, [...Christianity is the {only}....]. The use of the word {only}precludes all those that are not members of Christianity, does it not? Thearfore, a subset of readers could think that their religion , if not Christian, can not have a path for them to return to the Father. (but Christianity does). That is an example of the generally accepted meaning of what {put down} means.
C. Were you a deputy when that was posted?
D. If so, why did you not address the post in relation to the rules of Mr Hsiung's TOS?
E. Were you ever told not to address it as deputy? If so, by whom?
F. If you are not going to help me stop these statements from being allowed to be seen as supportive and good for this community as a whole by the nature that they are allowed to stand, for what reason could you give to not use any influence that you could have to help me?
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1054096.html