Posted by Moishe Pipik on August 14, 2013, at 17:33:25
In reply to Re: change, posted by alexandra_k on August 14, 2013, at 16:38:25
> It does sound kinda corny, huh. But then I see how he feels caught between a rock and a hard place sometimes. Like if he makes a decision one way then one group of people will be upset and probably stop participating in the support aspect of the site, and if he makes a decision the other way then another group of people will be upset and probably stop participating in the support aspect of the site. I think it is pretty much a miracle that he sticks around.
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> If he becomes more lenient some will be upset because they liked it when he was less lenient. Others will be upset because they don't like change and feel there is inconsistency / unreliability. If he doesn't change then others will feel upset at his inflexibility. Some people feel that they deserve his loyalty because they have demonstrated loyalty in staying and being good. Other people feel that they deserve his loyalty because they have demonstrated loyalty in returning after lengthy enforced absences.
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> And while all that goes on what is happening on the other boards?
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> The boards will become what we make them.Very much like politics - you can please some of the people sometimes.
Yes, the boards will become what we make of them. But, like with our fractured American "culture", they won't be anything worthwhile without a great deal of tolerance. As with culture, people want things to be their way, and feel it's OK to insist that others do so. Only with the acceptance that this is unreasonable and impossible will any true dialogue occur. In society, people want stupid laws to guarantee their way; with Babble, it's the "report" button and the rules. It seems so simple to too many that rules fix things. That's not simple; it's simplistic. People need to learn the value of DOING NOTHING. Every perceived slight can't be mollified. Every perceived transgression can't be punished. Just like in real life, one can choose to be upset about things they don't like to see/hear or one can accept that there are reasonable limits to their desire for a controlled environment. Unfortunately, those same folks refuse to examine their unbending belief that they are right to expect this, and expect that others should be coerced to conform.
The true nature of pluralism involves letting a LOT of stuff pass without action to stop it or prevent it.
It's just like marriage/family/friendship - people will say and do stuff that you don't like, but what right do you have to tell them what not to do or say? It's only when we realize that our family, etc. doesn't have to mirror us in order for there to be communication, love and peace. It's not their responsibility to change for us; it's our responsibility not to expect it.
poster:Moishe Pipik
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