Posted by gardenergirl on July 18, 2008, at 19:09:11
In reply to Lou's request for clarification-slctadmn? » gardenergirl, posted by Lou PIlder on July 18, 2008, at 17:45:47
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> gardenergirl,
> You wrote,[...the ..system does not allow for enough time for..individual attention..from (the administartion)...]
> I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean by the statement above. If you could clarify by answering te following, then I could have a better understanding of what you are wanting to mean and respond accordingly.
> A. If the system does not allow as what you have written here, then if another member sent the same notification that is of the one that I sent that is outstanding,at around the same time, I am unsure as to what would happen in regards to the post in question could in your opinion as to the grammatical structure of your statement in question here, that the other member's notification would or would not be responded to.
> Lou
>I don't have any way to predict how the current team would respond in that situation. I can tell you about factors that might influence my actions in a similar situation if that would help.
First, I'd have to consider what the notifications were about. If they were about an area I did not feel especially competent to evaluate, which includes most Faith board posts, I would likely not respond to either notification and defer it to the others.
Assuming it was something I did feel competent to evaluate, I'd also look at whether your notification was about someone you've notified about more than three times in the past that did not warrant action as determined by admin. Admittedly, there was no "list" or other way to track that, so I would have to go by my memory of past notifications and their outcomes and perhaps check my email archives. Because as you know, Lou, according to one of the rules of three, if one's notification is about someone for whom one has notified more than three times (or three times?) prior on posts that were not uncivil, further notifications sent by the same poster about the same other poster will not be considered. On a side note, that could be an explanation for at least some of your outstanding notifications.
Another factor is "readability". If one poster sends a notification that is concise, direct, and clear, I found it easier to take on. If the notification is long, less direct, contains multiple rationals or criteria or other extraneous as far as what I needed as a deputy to do my job, I would be less inclined to act on that one.
If I had to choose between two notifications to take on as a deputy due to time, energy, or interest constraints, and one was from someone who sent in an occasional notification (or even no prior notifications) and the other was from someone who had sent in numerous and sometimes repetitive notifications, I would likely feel more inclined to address the first. That would feel more equitable to me in how I used my "deputy" time. Typically, I would rather have spent it helping more people a bit than helping one person a lot. The latter never felt fair to me.
And the obvious part to your scenario is that if two notifications were presented on the same post, and one was "addressed" and the other was not, the post is still getting looked at. If the post is uncivil, the subsequent admin action would be there in the thread for all to see, including anyone who sent in a notification. If the post was deemed not uncivil, I think it would be appropriate to let both posters who notified know of the decision, although if one of them as in the "Three strikes" situation with the poster in question, then they might not get a reply. Though from my point of view, if I'm composing one reply, it would not be too difficult to copy and paste that into a reply to the other poster either, regardless of the rule of three status.
Dear lord, this is complicated and hard to explain. But those are the factors I can think of that could and did at times influence my choices about responding to notifications.
Finally, to be perfectly frank, Lou, if I believed that any reply I sent to you to explain a decision that a post you notified about was not uncivil would be highly likely to be met with further appeals from you about it, I did at times choose to avoid getting into it altogether. I was grateful that this was an option for deputies and that we could elect this option for any reason.
gg
PS: Regarding the coded aspects of your subject lines in this dialog, I do not find Babble to be a hostile environment nor do I find selective administration to occur due to anti-semitism or other discrimination towards specific individuals and/or groups. I do believe that Babble might not feel like a supportive, nurturing, and/or comfortable place for every single individual for any number of reasons. No place is. And any selective administration I've noted appears to me to stem more from trying to be as effective and efficient as possible given all of the demands and the limited resources available to meet them.
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