Posted by Estella on July 30, 2006, at 8:18:44
In reply to Re: rules, posted by Dr. Bob on July 30, 2006, at 3:57:17
> The goal is civility. Which facilitates support.
Is that intended as a definition of civility? If you blocked a person and the block didn't facilitate support then would you conclude that you shouldn't have blocked that person?
> It sounds like we agree that lines need to be drawn. But where exactly to draw them is a different issue, and reasonable people can disagree.
Yeah. I'm not sure that much progress is made on drawing them differently... Except that people do seem to repeatedly say that:
1) You seem to be too quick to block posters when they haven't accused / attacked / judged another poster and they would be willing to rephrase on the boards (which may well indicate that they didn't mean to cause offence).
2) You seem to block people for exhorbatent lengths of time when they haven't accused / attacked / judged another poster and they would be willing to rephrase on the boards (which may well indicate that they didn't mean to cause offence).
As a result of that... Other posters seem to be uncivil (typically towards you but also towards other posters). Also the blocked poster seems to be more likely to be uncivil (typically towards you but also towards other posters) upon return.
As such... 1 and 2 seem to decrease the support on these boards.
> > I am concerned that some people, who might post a plea for help or while obviously in trouble, might ... attract enourmous attention about whether or not there was a real infraction of rules ... and meanwhile, the original poster's core concern gets ignoredI think that does happen. Not just on admin. I think that posting a ********trigger******** on someone elses thread (without offering words of support) is a similar issue...
> What would more flexibility be based on? The thing about flexibility is that it can be seen as unfair.
Rigidity can also be seen as unfair. Not only unfair, but stubborn as well ;-) One way of being flexible would be to relax 1 or 2 uniformly across the board (as much as humanly possible).
> > > Part of learning how to deal with others might just be for people to be uncivil, have that pointed out by Dr. Bob and other members, and then work on appropriate alternate behaviors, and then keep posting.After being blocked for up to one year? Longer blocks... Probably decrease the liklihood of that. When work to perform appropriate alternative behaviours results in blockings of up to one year... I think people are more likely to come to believe they can't do whatever it is that is required. Maybe you think those people should be excluded from babble society. I guess you do think that or you wouldn't block them. I think you exclude a lot of people who would remain and be good sources of support but for your overly harsh blocking system...
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