Posted by Paulbwell on October 12, 2005, at 3:42:23
In reply to Re: Barbiturates-Seconal- Tuinal, sleep, posted by med_empowered on October 12, 2005, at 3:30:59
> hey! Sorry your doc won't rx sedatives b/c of an overdose. Its a little weird, though--I've had friends who have done similar things, and once they're stable docs re-instate sedatives if needed. It seems kind of punitive to with hold them like that. Anyway, I f*cking hate trazadone...it doesn't work well as an antidepressant, the sleep isnt very good, and it causes priapism. Sedating antipsychotics just seem ridiculous. The drugs are expensive as hell, cause problems, and arent even intended for sleep...its stupid. Barbiturates can be helpful, if your doc is willing to prescribe them...there's seconal, tuinal, and I think alurate and phenobarbital are used as well. In benzo-land there's prosom, doral, halcion, restoril, and dalmane; usually, restoril is the one that's used. Remeron might actually be a good option; it can actually improve sleep (and possible help with sleep apnea) and the weight gain thing isn't as big a deal at higher doses (30-45mgs). Benadryl really is sometimes a good option. Personally, I hate the stuff, but if you responded well to hydroxyzine, 50-100mgs benadryl might do the trick (the antihistamine thing is probably what makes low-dose seroquel so sedating as well). Sometimes "alternative" stuff helps people...I've found that valerian+5-HTP+25-50mgs Benadryl works really well, without the side-effects of high-dose benadryl or hydroxyzine for sleep. Sonata and Ambien are good options; the only thing I dislike about sonata is its super fast action. Lunesta might be worth while, as well. Good luck!
I have taken many of the meds you have mentioned. THE BEST SLEEP I EVER HAD was after takng 2 100mg Seconal Caps-i awoke the next morning, with a rested brain. I believe Nembutal and Tuinal CAN be more effective. I havn't taken Ambien or Sonata.
Cheers
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