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Posted by Skeletor on June 11, 2020, at 10:43:14
How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule in countering mental illness?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Is a disregulated sleep cycle / schedule a contributor to mental illness?
I remember back in Highschool I've had a great schedule / sleep cycle and was way less depressed than later in College. In College I started to have really bad sleep cycles due to not being bound to mandatory attendance.
Posted by linkadge on June 12, 2020, at 6:49:46
In reply to How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule?, posted by Skeletor on June 11, 2020, at 10:43:14
For me, it's very important.
When I am 'well' however, my brain just naturally follows a regular sleep wake cycle. When I am not well it becomes erratic.
So, I don't know the extent to which dysregulated sleep is the cause of the problem vs. a symptom of the problem. I tend to lean towards the latter.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on June 12, 2020, at 10:33:09
In reply to How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule?, posted by Skeletor on June 11, 2020, at 10:43:14
> How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule in countering mental illness?
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> Is a disregulated sleep cycle / schedule a contributor to mental illness?
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> I remember back in Highschool I've had a great schedule / sleep cycle and was way less depressed than later in College. In College I started to have really bad sleep cycles due to not being bound to mandatory attendance.To help answer your question, I would describe what the NIMH / NIH demands of their patients. They must be in bed no later than 11:00 PM and no earlier than 11:00 PM. Similarly, we weren't allowed out of bed until exactly 7:00 AM.
Circadian rhythm can be critical in addressing mental illness. One of the researchers on my floor was Thomas Wehr, who was at the forefront of study in this area.
- Scott
Posted by PCB on June 12, 2020, at 14:40:58
In reply to How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule?, posted by Skeletor on June 11, 2020, at 10:43:14
Some say it might be at the heart of Bipolar Disease. Once I got off coffee, I bought a Fitbit with a sleep tracker. I go to bed every night at 10:00 and wake up everyday at 6:00. After 2 weeks of that, the Fitbit showed my normal sleep cycles returned with 3 bouts of REM. Most of all, I felt Fantastic! So I think its important, although until I got off coffee and had the right medication, I dont think it would help much for me.
https://psycheducation.org/treatment/bipolar-disorder-light-and-darkness/
Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 12, 2020, at 19:45:19
In reply to Re: How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule?, posted by linkadge on June 12, 2020, at 6:49:46
8 hour sleep, is best to function. Sleep deprivation results in dopamine increase through out its time, then it decreases as time goes on.
12 hours sleep, sometimes is good, but takes long time also you feel more groggy the more hours you sleep. If sleep deprivated and then sleep for 15+ hours it usally helps, with restoring functions.
Posted by SLS on June 13, 2020, at 8:29:44
In reply to Re: How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule?, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 12, 2020, at 19:45:19
> 8 hour sleep, is best to function. Sleep deprivation results in dopamine increase through out its time, then it decreases as time goes on.
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> 12 hours sleep, sometimes is good, but takes long time also you feel more groggy the more hours you sleep. If sleep deprivated and then sleep for 15+ hours it usally helps, with restoring functions.
I discovered decades ago that if you wake up at your usual time - even if you must use an alarm, you can then go back to sleep for hours afterwards without feeling groggy. Sundays were always bad for me regarding mental energy and the ability to read. I figured out that my staying out until 2:00 AM on Saturday night and waking up at 10:30 AM really screwed me up. I didn't enjoy football as much. Since I learned about the existence of circadian rhythms and zeitgebers in college, including light exposure, it just made sense to me that I should reset my circadian rhythm on Sunday mornings. It was just an experiment. I was pleasantly surprised that it worked. I just had to make sure that I reached a state of full wakefullness. I found that I didn't have to stay awake for than more than 5 minutes.
- Scott
Posted by undopaminergic on June 14, 2020, at 6:48:40
In reply to Re: How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule?, posted by SLS on June 13, 2020, at 8:29:44
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> I discovered decades ago that if you wake up at your usual time - even if you must use an alarm, you can then go back to sleep for hours afterwards without feeling groggy.
>Are you saying you can take a refreshing nap (if you get up at your usual time)?
How long do you have to stay up before the nap?
-undopaminergic
Posted by Lamdage22 on June 14, 2020, at 21:16:32
In reply to Re: How important is a regular sleep cycle / schedule? » SLS, posted by undopaminergic on June 14, 2020, at 6:48:40
I do sleep a lot less lately. I think it is a good sign. I had hypersomnia.
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