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Posted by Jenbracha on November 8, 2004, at 0:24:58
Hi all!
I am trying to gather information about the pros and cons of both Topomax and Zonegran. There seems to be MUCH more info on Topomax, but very little on Zonegran and I am not sure why that is. Can any Zonegran users provide input on side effects in regards to cognitive side effects (and any other side effects that you have noticed)? I am on Topomax and take it for Bipolar disorder as well as Binge Eating Disorder. I also suffer with insomnia and therefore take the Topomax (I am on 50 mg) at night. It does help me sleep. I still suffer fatigue in the daytime, but since I have only been on it for a week, I have some hope that it will pass. My concern is that the cognitive slowing will not.
In any event, I am interested in getting some feedback about both meds and hoping that I can formulate a backup plan with Zonegran in case the Topomax does not work out.
Much thanks,
Jen
Posted by babbgal on November 8, 2004, at 0:24:59
In reply to Topomax vs Zonegran, posted by Jenbracha on November 5, 2004, at 10:59:53
Hi Jen:
Let me start out by saying I am bipolar II, rapid cycling.
I was on Topamax for over a year for Binge Eating Disorder and I found the appetite suppression effects waned over time. My psychologist (Ph.D.) told me that when discussing Topamax with psychiatrists, several mentioned that the efficacy of Topamax for weight issues does diminish.
I definitely had cognitive deficits on Topamax, whether I was on 50mg or 200mg. I had problems with word finding and data analysis, which wasn't good considering I'm a Financial Analyst. When the weight-loss effects lessened, my psychiatrist upped the dose, which helped (with the weight) only briefly. The cognitive deficits continued, plus I developed parasthesia (tingling in extremities).
I am now off Topamax but still have weight concerns (I tell my doc my weight concerns are an 11 on a scale of 1-10) since I gained back all the weight I had lost - 20 lbs. However, I am also on Seroquel which can result in a lessening of energy and some weight gain. My psychiatrist at first thought Seroquel was weight-neutral, but apparently new data is coming out that says there can be some weight gan on Seroquel, maybe as much as a patient on Risperdal.
So, I am off Topamax and currently slowing weaning off of the Seroquel. My psychiatrist said that once off Seroquel we might try Zonergan for the weight issue and maybe switch to lithium. Currently, I don't know a lot about Zonergan and yes, there doesn't seem to be much info. out there on how it connects to weight...I am trusting my psychiatrist because he does a lot of research and is always well-informed of the latest literature.
He also knows that weight is a huge issue for me and is always working with that in mind. (I'm so grateful for this.)
Hope you don't mind my rambling, just wanted to share my experience! Jen, I can so identify with you with the bipolar and BED. I wish you luck and peace in dealing with these. I've been there.
> Hi all!
>
> I am trying to gather information about the pros and cons of both Topomax and Zonegran. There seems to be MUCH more info on Topomax, but very little on Zonegran and I am not sure why that is. Can any Zonegran users provide input on side effects in regards to cognitive side effects (and any other side effects that you have noticed)? I am on Topomax and take it for Bipolar disorder as well as Binge Eating Disorder. I also suffer with insomnia and therefore take the Topomax (I am on 50 mg) at night. It does help me sleep. I still suffer fatigue in the daytime, but since I have only been on it for a week, I have some hope that it will pass. My concern is that the cognitive slowing will not.
>
> In any event, I am interested in getting some feedback about both meds and hoping that I can formulate a backup plan with Zonegran in case the Topomax does not work out.
>
> Much thanks,
> Jen
Posted by jenbracha on November 8, 2004, at 0:25:00
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran, posted by babbgal on November 6, 2004, at 12:37:15
Hi there,
Sounds like we have identical diagnosis! Thanks so much for your input. May I ask when you noticed the binge eating aid of the Topomax start to wane? (How long were you on the med before it lost its' effect)?
Please keep me posted on your well being and the Zonegran. And best of luck to you!
Jen
> Hi Jen:
>
> Let me start out by saying I am bipolar II, rapid cycling.
>
> I was on Topamax for over a year for Binge Eating Disorder and I found the appetite suppression effects waned over time. My psychologist (Ph.D.) told me that when discussing Topamax with psychiatrists, several mentioned that the efficacy of Topamax for weight issues does diminish.
>
> I definitely had cognitive deficits on Topamax, whether I was on 50mg or 200mg. I had problems with word finding and data analysis, which wasn't good considering I'm a Financial Analyst. When the weight-loss effects lessened, my psychiatrist upped the dose, which helped (with the weight) only briefly. The cognitive deficits continued, plus I developed parasthesia (tingling in extremities).
>
> I am now off Topamax but still have weight concerns (I tell my doc my weight concerns are an 11 on a scale of 1-10) since I gained back all the weight I had lost - 20 lbs. However, I am also on Seroquel which can result in a lessening of energy and some weight gain. My psychiatrist at first thought Seroquel was weight-neutral, but apparently new data is coming out that says there can be some weight gan on Seroquel, maybe as much as a patient on Risperdal.
>
> So, I am off Topamax and currently slowing weaning off of the Seroquel. My psychiatrist said that once off Seroquel we might try Zonergan for the weight issue and maybe switch to lithium. Currently, I don't know a lot about Zonergan and yes, there doesn't seem to be much info. out there on how it connects to weight...I am trusting my psychiatrist because he does a lot of research and is always well-informed of the latest literature.
>
> He also knows that weight is a huge issue for me and is always working with that in mind. (I'm so grateful for this.)
>
> Hope you don't mind my rambling, just wanted to share my experience! Jen, I can so identify with you with the bipolar and BED. I wish you luck and peace in dealing with these. I've been there.
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I am trying to gather information about the pros and cons of both Topomax and Zonegran. There seems to be MUCH more info on Topomax, but very little on Zonegran and I am not sure why that is. Can any Zonegran users provide input on side effects in regards to cognitive side effects (and any other side effects that you have noticed)? I am on Topomax and take it for Bipolar disorder as well as Binge Eating Disorder. I also suffer with insomnia and therefore take the Topomax (I am on 50 mg) at night. It does help me sleep. I still suffer fatigue in the daytime, but since I have only been on it for a week, I have some hope that it will pass. My concern is that the cognitive slowing will not.
> >
> > In any event, I am interested in getting some feedback about both meds and hoping that I can formulate a backup plan with Zonegran in case the Topomax does not work out.
> >
> > Much thanks,
> > Jen
>
Posted by stresser on November 8, 2004, at 0:25:01
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran » babbgal, posted by jenbracha on November 6, 2004, at 12:55:57
Hi
I'm just being nosy and reading your posts because my daughter has BED and is taking topamax. She started out on 50mg per day, and is up to 200mg per day. I don't think she has any cognative dulling, but has had tingling feet and buring eyes. That has passed, but I don't really think it's helping the BED much yet. I don't see any weight loss, but her moods seem to be stabilized. She has not been diagnosed with anything other than depression, and she says that's gone even after stopping Welbutrin. I am assuming she's telling me the truth, but who know's for sure. I hope everything works out, keep me posted PLEASE? -L
Posted by jenbracha on November 8, 2004, at 0:25:02
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran, posted by stresser on November 6, 2004, at 21:07:15
Hi there,
Don't worry about being nosy! I am so glad you posted:)
May I ask you a few questions?
1) How long your daughter has been on the Topomax?
2) How old is she (if you don't mind me asking)?
3) She might not have lost any weight, but does she say that she feels less urge to binge eat? What does she day about her urges to binge in general?
Feel free to ask ANYTHING or give any input! I have suffered with a binge eating disorder since the age of 5 and am very open about it.
Best,
Jen> Hi
>
> I'm just being nosy and reading your posts because my daughter has BED and is taking topamax. She started out on 50mg per day, and is up to 200mg per day. I don't think she has any cognative dulling, but has had tingling feet and buring eyes. That has passed, but I don't really think it's helping the BED much yet. I don't see any weight loss, but her moods seem to be stabilized. She has not been diagnosed with anything other than depression, and she says that's gone even after stopping Welbutrin. I am assuming she's telling me the truth, but who know's for sure. I hope everything works out, keep me posted PLEASE? -L
Posted by stresser on November 8, 2004, at 0:25:02
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran » stresser, posted by jenbracha on November 6, 2004, at 21:15:27
Jen- I tried to babble mail you this morning. I don't know where this post would have been directed, so please let me know it you don't get the mail. Sometimes this works and then it doesn't other times. -L
Posted by babbgal on November 8, 2004, at 0:25:03
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran » babbgal, posted by jenbracha on November 6, 2004, at 12:55:57
Hi all!
Jen, my lowest dose of Topamax was 50mg, the highest 200mg -- I went to 200mg when my weight began creeping up again, but I didn't stay long there because of the decreasing efficacy, parasthesia, etc.
I think all in all, it was about 9 to 11 months -- for me -- before the positive effects of the Topamax started to wear off.
Now I'm working on behavioral changes (doing the South Beach Diet that my husband is doing with me - a great help, and my psychiatrist recommended it) and seeing what happens as I lower my Seroquel. Interesting in that I ramped up my Seroquel dosage just this past February when my docs thought Seroquel was weight-neutral, and now apparently contrary evidence is creeping in.
Oh - and I've also been hypothyroid since 1990, and thyroid problems are heavily indicated in women with bipolar. I just started seeing an endocrinologist who works with my docs and really understands how the psychiatric drugs interact with the thyroid replacement. He says I'll "feel completely different" once we hit on the right combo of thyroid drugs. It's really interesting.
Jen - just curious if you deal with any thyroid problems?
Boy, I think working all these meds takes someone who can see it as an art and a science...
Posted by jenbracha on November 8, 2004, at 0:25:03
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran, posted by babbgal on November 7, 2004, at 12:10:46
Hi there,
I have had my thyroid tested many times and never any problems. But it can be the culprit of MANY problems.
And I KNOW the seroquel can cause the most weight gain of almost ANY drug around. I was on it for a while as well and my doctor showed me a chart of the worst weight gain drugs. It and Zyprexa were at the top of the list. So, at least you know that it isn't YOUR fault!!!
Yep, the meds are a CRAZY art and science!
Jen
>
Hi all!
>
> Jen, my lowest dose of Topamax was 50mg, the highest 200mg -- I went to 200mg when my weight began creeping up again, but I didn't stay long there because of the decreasing efficacy, parasthesia, etc.
>
> I think all in all, it was about 9 to 11 months -- for me -- before the positive effects of the Topamax started to wear off.
>
> Now I'm working on behavioral changes (doing the South Beach Diet that my husband is doing with me - a great help, and my psychiatrist recommended it) and seeing what happens as I lower my Seroquel. Interesting in that I ramped up my Seroquel dosage just this past February when my docs thought Seroquel was weight-neutral, and now apparently contrary evidence is creeping in.
>
> Oh - and I've also been hypothyroid since 1990, and thyroid problems are heavily indicated in women with bipolar. I just started seeing an endocrinologist who works with my docs and really understands how the psychiatric drugs interact with the thyroid replacement. He says I'll "feel completely different" once we hit on the right combo of thyroid drugs. It's really interesting.
>
> Jen - just curious if you deal with any thyroid problems?
>
> Boy, I think working all these meds takes someone who can see it as an art and a science...
Posted by stresser on November 8, 2004, at 0:25:03
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran » babbgal, posted by jenbracha on November 7, 2004, at 16:26:51
I'm interested in the thyriod problems some of you mentioned. My daughter had hers tested in a routine blood workup for accutane, and the doc, said she was fine. Now, with her BED, mood disorder, depression problems I am starting to wonder if her thyroid could be playing into this. Do you think that's possible? She really does hold onto weight like crazy, but then again,her metabolism could be slower. Please give me your thoughts on this one. (She is taking the topamax for the BED) -L
Posted by dazed on November 8, 2004, at 12:08:18
In reply to Topomax vs Zonegran, posted by Jenbracha on November 5, 2004, at 10:59:53
I've been on both, currently on Zonegran. I'm on it for prevention of migraines.
Topamax I started getting very stupid around 150 mg. My stupids affected my work, so I switched to Zonegran, which supposedly works the same, less side effects.
I am currently on 400 mg Zonegran, and far less stupids, no tingling of extremities, weight loss is the same as on topomax. I've lost about 35 pounds in 6 months, 3 of those 4 of those months being on Zonegran.
My hair is thinning very much (a side effect of both Topomax and Zonegran), but I would rather be bald than have 4-5 migraines a week. Some people use Biotin for their hair and it supposedly helps. My salon lady said use Powerplus Shampoo products and it rejuvenates the hair at the root.
Drink lots of water on either med. Overall, Zonegran users have less side effects that Topomax users and they have usually started out on Topomax. Most side effect, i.e., excessive tiredness go away around 4-6 weeks, but my appetite is still far less than when I wasn't on anything.
Posted by babbgal on November 8, 2004, at 12:33:14
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran-I'VE BEEN ON BOTH, posted by dazed on November 8, 2004, at 12:08:18
dazed, thanks so much for the info. I think my doc will be putting me on Zonergan soon, so I'm hopeful in reading about your experience. Yeah, I was so dopey [literally :)] on Topamax, I'm really curious/eager to try Zonergan.
Thanks again!
> I've been on both, currently on Zonegran. I'm on it for prevention of migraines.
>
> Topamax I started getting very stupid around 150 mg. My stupids affected my work, so I switched to Zonegran, which supposedly works the same, less side effects.
> I am currently on 400 mg Zonegran, and far less stupids, no tingling of extremities, weight loss is the same as on topomax. I've lost about 35 pounds in 6 months, 3 of those 4 of those months being on Zonegran.
> My hair is thinning very much (a side effect of both Topomax and Zonegran), but I would rather be bald than have 4-5 migraines a week. Some people use Biotin for their hair and it supposedly helps. My salon lady said use Powerplus Shampoo products and it rejuvenates the hair at the root.
> Drink lots of water on either med. Overall, Zonegran users have less side effects that Topomax users and they have usually started out on Topomax. Most side effect, i.e., excessive tiredness go away around 4-6 weeks, but my appetite is still far less than when I wasn't on anything.
Posted by babbgal on November 8, 2004, at 12:52:09
In reply to Topamax vs. Thyroid, posted by stresser on November 7, 2004, at 22:20:40
stresser:
Well, I'm not a doc but with all your daughter's symptoms, it might be worth a visit to a good (stress: good) endocrinologist.
My psychiatrist referred me to my current endocrinologist, who is considered the best in SF. Previously, my routine blood panels done by my GP showed my TSH ping-ponging all over the place, so he was putting my dose of thyroid replacement hormone up and down and up and down.
Then I went to this endocrinologist, who I call the "mad scientist." He basically said that GPs don't know how to treat hypothyroidism. (Just his opinion!) He runs his own lab because he doesn't trust others. He ran a whole bunch of blood work on me that is outside of the typical thyroid panel. He is known as a maverick and someone who really GETS the interplay between psychiatric drugs and the thyroid replacement drugs.
Currently I'm on a regimen of non-generic Synthroid and Cytomel. I've been hypothyroid since 1990 and I had never even heard of Cytomel (a T3 hormone replacement) before...in any case, this endocrinologist said that once we lock down the medication regime, "You will feel completely different." When I asked if the new thyroid medication will help my metabolism and weight, he said, "Of course it will!" (He's brusque but pretty funny.)
Anyway, this is my experience -- don't know if this was helpful...but I'm really hopeful in seeing this doc so he can collaborate with my pdoc and we can help get my weight under control, and help my BPD.
Let me know if you want more info.!
> I'm interested in the thyriod problems some of you mentioned. My daughter had hers tested in a routine blood workup for accutane, and the doc, said she was fine. Now, with her BED, mood disorder, depression problems I am starting to wonder if her thyroid could be playing into this. Do you think that's possible? She really does hold onto weight like crazy, but then again,her metabolism could be slower. Please give me your thoughts on this one. (She is taking the topamax for the BED) -L
Posted by stresser on November 9, 2004, at 11:16:00
In reply to Re: Topamax vs. Thyroid » stresser, posted by babbgal on November 8, 2004, at 12:52:09
Thanks so much for the reply and your advice. I have been contemplating the thyroid problem for some time, but kept telliny myself no..... that's not it. I will look into it, it can't hurt. Right? -L
Posted by Aussie on November 14, 2004, at 3:55:05
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran-I'VE BEEN ON BOTH, posted by dazed on November 8, 2004, at 12:08:18
I've been on Topomax; it was a nightmare for me.
I am conciencious so I used it for a month even though I became increasingly anxious, I finally couldn't stand it any longer. Apparently a few unlucky people with PTSD can have a bad reaction with Topomax. On the good side I did lose weight in that month. I got the extremity tingles too, but could dealwith that.Anyhow moving along, so far Zonegran is just fine.I am still ramping up on it. I don't notice side effects; except a bit more hair loss than normal.
I need to get off Serzone which I JUST CAN'T seem to do.
Anxiety disorder. I started taking Topomax to replace serzone (that was a nightmare/Topomax). Then I tried Gabitril to replace Serzone and that did nothing. So now I amramping up on Zonegran and nearly off Gabitril. I guess sooner orlater I have to go further off the serzone and then completely as the FDA has 'taken it off the market'.Hope this makes sense. It's late at night.I got on this same reason it seems, can't find much info on Zonegran. Wanted to know what other people's experience of it is. I am up to 75mg soon to be 100mg.
Aussie.
Posted by ravenstorm on November 14, 2004, at 13:56:01
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran-I'VE BEEN ON BOTH, posted by Aussie on November 14, 2004, at 3:55:05
So, you are using zonegran to replace an AD (serzone)? Is zonegran suppossed to be good for anxiety/depression? Are you bipolar as well?
Posted by redscarlet on November 14, 2004, at 14:49:38
In reply to Topomax vs Zonegran, posted by Jenbracha on November 5, 2004, at 10:59:53
I'm on Zonegran now, I took Topamax for over two years and the only side effect I had from it was the hair loss. I even took mega dosages of vitamins to try to help with the hair loss but it never seem to make a difference. I still take the vitamins even now because Zonegran can have the same side effect, however I don't seem to have any hair loss from it.
I've been on the Zonegran since January 12 of this year. I went straight from 200mg of Topamax to 200mg of Zonegran (with no problems). I take 100mg in the am & pm. With both the Topamax and the Zongran I don't notice any change in my appetite.
I did drop down my Zongran dose to 100mg a day for one month but just had to go back to the 200mg dose as of the 2nd of this month. I take Zonegran as my mood stabilizer for my bipolar disorder and it works very good for me.
As far as the cognitive impairment, I can't remember anything ! However I'm on other meds along with the Zongran.
I take 450mg of Wellbutrin and Geodon and just took myself off my 200mg's of Seroquel (over a period of time), which my pdoc does not know about ! But I was just to tired all the time and so far so good, I have much more energy. I have a pdoc appointment on the 30th and will decide if I'm going to spill the beans or not ! He's not going to be happy !!!
I also had memory problems on the Topamax too but I was on the other stuff when I was on that also.
With both the Topamax and Zongran I didn't have any of the tingling feelings or problems with my eyes. Soft drinks do taste funny but that's not a issue for me, I don't drink them any more, haven't for over three years, just water and de-caf coffee every once in a while for me.
So, I would have to say that Zongran is a very good med for me having tried all the other mood stabilizer out there, this one is a keeper.
Posted by Aussie on November 14, 2004, at 20:53:37
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran-I'VE BEEN ON BOTH, posted by ravenstorm on November 14, 2004, at 13:56:01
> So, you are using zonegran to replace an AD (serzone)? Is zonegran suppossed to be good for anxiety/depression? Are you bipolar as well?
Yes, when I reach a higher dose of Zonegran I expect to be able to reduce the Serzone. Bipolar - I don't think so. Is it good for anxiety/depression - I sure hope so - unless my pdoc is not telling me everything. I see her in a week and think I need to grill her. Last time I was in the begging mode.
NB I take 300mg Effexor in the morning.
So I gather people are taking Zonegran for bipolar; anything else?
Aussie.
Posted by Jenbracha on December 20, 2004, at 1:26:03
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran, posted by redscarlet on November 14, 2004, at 14:49:38
Thanks for your input!
May I ask: Why did you switch from the Topomax to the Zonegran in the first place?
And: what have you noticed are the main differences between Topomax and Zonegran in regards to treating your mood disorder AND side effects?
Thank you soooo much!
Jen> I'm on Zonegran now, I took Topamax for over two years and the only side effect I had from it was the hair loss. I even took mega dosages of vitamins to try to help with the hair loss but it never seem to make a difference. I still take the vitamins even now because Zonegran can have the same side effect, however I don't seem to have any hair loss from it.
> I've been on the Zonegran since January 12 of this year. I went straight from 200mg of Topamax to 200mg of Zonegran (with no problems). I take 100mg in the am & pm. With both the Topamax and the Zongran I don't notice any change in my appetite.
> I did drop down my Zongran dose to 100mg a day for one month but just had to go back to the 200mg dose as of the 2nd of this month. I take Zonegran as my mood stabilizer for my bipolar disorder and it works very good for me.
> As far as the cognitive impairment, I can't remember anything ! However I'm on other meds along with the Zongran.
> I take 450mg of Wellbutrin and Geodon and just took myself off my 200mg's of Seroquel (over a period of time), which my pdoc does not know about ! But I was just to tired all the time and so far so good, I have much more energy. I have a pdoc appointment on the 30th and will decide if I'm going to spill the beans or not ! He's not going to be happy !!!
> I also had memory problems on the Topamax too but I was on the other stuff when I was on that also.
> With both the Topamax and Zongran I didn't have any of the tingling feelings or problems with my eyes. Soft drinks do taste funny but that's not a issue for me, I don't drink them any more, haven't for over three years, just water and de-caf coffee every once in a while for me.
> So, I would have to say that Zongran is a very good med for me having tried all the other mood stabilizer out there, this one is a keeper.
>
Posted by Jenbracha on December 20, 2004, at 1:30:11
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran-I'VE BEEN ON BOTH, posted by dazed on November 8, 2004, at 12:08:18
Hi there!
I am glad to hear that Zonegran is helping you. I mentioned it to my doctor because the Topomax is really burning my cognition. Also, the pins and needles are getting worse with time. But my primary concern is that it has really messed with my memory.
Problem is that he has never used Zonegran for psychiatric purposes and wants to research it more before putting me on it. But he doesn't have a lot of time and I would feel better if I could just present him with information. However, I cannot find comprehensive info on Zonegran. Is there a support group online that you know of? Or a really good Zonegran website?
Also, did you have more weight loss with Topomax or Zonegran?
Thanks so much for your time!
Jen
> I've been on both, currently on Zonegran. I'm on it for prevention of migraines.
>
> Topamax I started getting very stupid around 150 mg. My stupids affected my work, so I switched to Zonegran, which supposedly works the same, less side effects.
> I am currently on 400 mg Zonegran, and far less stupids, no tingling of extremities, weight loss is the same as on topomax. I've lost about 35 pounds in 6 months, 3 of those 4 of those months being on Zonegran.
> My hair is thinning very much (a side effect of both Topomax and Zonegran), but I would rather be bald than have 4-5 migraines a week. Some people use Biotin for their hair and it supposedly helps. My salon lady said use Powerplus Shampoo products and it rejuvenates the hair at the root.
> Drink lots of water on either med. Overall, Zonegran users have less side effects that Topomax users and they have usually started out on Topomax. Most side effect, i.e., excessive tiredness go away around 4-6 weeks, but my appetite is still far less than when I wasn't on anything.
Posted by Jenbracha on December 20, 2004, at 1:32:48
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran-I'VE BEEN ON BOTH, posted by Aussie on November 14, 2004, at 3:55:05
Aussie:
May I ask what you are on the Zonegran for?
I am on Topomax for bipolar, but want to switch to Zonegran. Doctor is leery as he knows very little about it as a bipolar med. So I am trying to get as much info as possible.
Thanks so much,
Jen> I've been on Topomax; it was a nightmare for me.
> I am conciencious so I used it for a month even though I became increasingly anxious, I finally couldn't stand it any longer. Apparently a few unlucky people with PTSD can have a bad reaction with Topomax. On the good side I did lose weight in that month. I got the extremity tingles too, but could dealwith that.
>
> Anyhow moving along, so far Zonegran is just fine.I am still ramping up on it. I don't notice side effects; except a bit more hair loss than normal.
>
> I need to get off Serzone which I JUST CAN'T seem to do.
> Anxiety disorder. I started taking Topomax to replace serzone (that was a nightmare/Topomax). Then I tried Gabitril to replace Serzone and that did nothing. So now I amramping up on Zonegran and nearly off Gabitril. I guess sooner orlater I have to go further off the serzone and then completely as the FDA has 'taken it off the market'.
>
> Hope this makes sense. It's late at night.I got on this same reason it seems, can't find much info on Zonegran. Wanted to know what other people's experience of it is. I am up to 75mg soon to be 100mg.
> Aussie.
Posted by HEART~ on June 18, 2006, at 11:07:34
In reply to Re: Topomax vs Zonegran-I'VE BEEN ON BOTH, posted by Jenbracha on December 20, 2004, at 1:32:48
I am curious to know how Topamax differs from Zonegran in regards to when it is used for binge eating disorder. I have read all the posts and wanted to know If anyone who posted had any updates on how they were doing on Zonegran. Am on 50mg of Topamax and the cognitive difficulties and extreme tiredness are killing me. So would switching to Zonegran be an option or does it carry the same side effects or worse?? I really cannot find any information. Can anyone share their experiences with these two drugs? And how and if it helped wth their binge eating and if there was weight loss? Thanks for reading this.
HEART~
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