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Posted by Phillipa on August 30, 2013, at 14:42:07
First time not a single notification of a post on babble. Had to use deleted items to access the site. So where did all go? Phillipa
Posted by vbs on August 30, 2013, at 14:42:08
In reply to Not A Single Notification From Babble A First, posted by Phillipa on August 27, 2013, at 10:41:18
I'm lurking around. It is quiet on the med board.
Posted by Tepi on August 30, 2013, at 14:42:08
In reply to Not A Single Notification From Babble A First, posted by Phillipa on August 27, 2013, at 10:41:18
> First time not a single notification of a post on babble. Had to use deleted items to access the site. So where did all go? Phillipa
First time in more than 10 years that I see this
Why?
What happened?
Where is everybody?:(
Posted by johnLA on August 30, 2013, at 14:42:09
In reply to Not A Single Notification From Babble A First, posted by Phillipa on August 27, 2013, at 10:41:18
p-
i have only been here a few years, but i think there are many reasons for fewer posts;
1. a person can access info by just searching and not posting
2. the format here is very dated
3. the last few months there has been quite a lot of 'drama' here. even sls is gone for a bit. i don't blame him.
4. so many other places to go. some really good actually and some not so good. let me know if you want some recs.
5. this place can be toxic and scary sometimes
6. people move oni could go on, but i won't. i read once that a restaurant has had a 'great run' if it lasts 10 to 15 years. i am curious what the equivalent in the faster pace world of the internet, what time length represents 'a good run? for a online site?
i also read recently that facebook is showing it's first wrinkles/cracks. even though their stock is doing well it is considered a baby boomer deal. and, newer social networking sites are taking mostly younger people away from almighty Facebook. imagine in your mind for a sec what will Facebook look like in 10 years? i predict a crash.
i used to love jazz before my depression hit. i was lucky to get to some very old clubs before they closed in the past 10/15 years. these clubs had been open for decades.
change is inevitable. i don't think this site will shut-down just yet, but it's just the way it is. you used to do aerobics and i used to run marathons!
anyway, i think (hoping) babble will survive. but, with a much smaller and dedicated group. nothing wrong with that.
i know this place means a lot to you and you seem to post your same concern every few months. what about staying here, but also looking for something new? you just might surprise yourself.
john
Posted by Phillipa on August 30, 2013, at 14:42:10
In reply to Re: Not A Single Notification From Babble A First » Phillipa, posted by johnLA on August 27, 2013, at 20:18:01
John been on facebook most of the time. So what is the new? Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:35
In reply to , posted by on December 31, 1969, at 18:00:00
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> i have only been here a few years, but i think there are many reasons for fewer posts;
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> 1. a person can access info by just searching and not posting
> 2. the format here is very dated
> 3. the last few months there has been quite a lot of 'drama' here. even sls is gone for a bit. i don't blame him.
> 4. so many other places to go. some really good actually and some not so good. let me know if you want some recs.
> 5. this place can be toxic and scary sometimes
> 6. people move on
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> i could go on, but i won't. i read once that a restaurant has had a 'great run' if it lasts 10 to 15 years. i am curious what the equivalent in the faster pace world of the internet, what time length represents 'a good run? for a online site?
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> i also read recently that facebook is showing it's first wrinkles/cracks. even though their stock is doing well it is considered a baby boomer deal. and, newer social networking sites are taking mostly younger people away from almighty Facebook. imagine in your mind for a sec what will Facebook look like in 10 years? i predict a crash.
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> i used to love jazz before my depression hit. i was lucky to get to some very old clubs before they closed in the past 10/15 years. these clubs had been open for decades.
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> change is inevitable. i don't think this site will shut-down just yet, but it's just the way it is. you used to do aerobics and i used to run marathons!
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> anyway, i think (hoping) babble will survive. but, with a much smaller and dedicated group. nothing wrong with that.
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> i know this place means a lot to you and you seem to post your same concern every few months. what about staying here, but also looking for something new? you just might surprise yourself.
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> johnjohn and friends,
The author's statements in the post that I am responding to could have the potential, IMHO, to lead others to see me in a false light which could decrease the respect and regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile disagreeable opinions and feelings against me. This is because the author does not cite any URLs to substantiate what he posted here about me so that readers could know what he uses to write such about me, nor do I have the opportunity to respond accordingly and show the context as to what his statements are in.
You see, the author writes that there is a drama here, and I could be thought to be a subject person in that drama since the persons are not identified. And more than that, the author writes that there are many reasons for fewer posts here.
But it is much more than that. You see, the author writes,[...even sls is gone for a bit. (I) don't BLAME him...].(emphasis mine)
Now an association has the potential to be formed with sls leaving for a bit and that there was a "drama", which I could be thought to be a subject person in such. The author does not state why he doesn't {blame} him for leaving. This could induce, IMO, the thinking of some here that he is {justified}, since there is no blame to sls, for him to leave here. This could IMO transfer blame being attributed to me as a cause for him leaving since there is not a reason stated as to why the author does not blame him for leaving and I do not know why the author states that he left {for a bit}. How does the author know that?
The summery of this is that IMHO I could be thought to be the cause by some readers of that there are fewer posts here, which could IMHO stigmatize me and lead some others to consider me to be used as a scapegoat for the real or imagined ills of this community and lesser posting here. For if sls is to be not blamed for leaving, then there could be the arousing to some to think that there is a blame, and that blame IMHO could be put on me by the nature that the drama could be thought to be between me and sls in particular, but not limited to just us.
I do not want to be thought to be the blame for anyone leaving here. I abide by the prohibitions to me by Mr Hsiung and try to abide by the rules here as humanly possible as others here. As far as to my mission here, to save lives and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and post to counteract statements that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings, it comes from a Jewish perspective that I am prevented from posting here due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. Since I am following those prohibitions to me, I fail to see why anyone would leave here because of what I write as the author here states that he does not blame sls for leaving {IN RELATION TO THE DRAMA} (emphasis mine). Now let's look at what could be thought to be the "drama" since it is not specified what the drama entails.
The last exchange between me and sls was concerning that he posted that I was {challenging the health of the community}. In the 1300s, the Jews were blamed for bringing the bubonic plague upon Europe where 1/2 of the population died from the black death. The Jews were blamed by the false charge that they {poisoned the wells}. The plague was, unbeknownst to those that persecuted the Jews and killed them, caused by a flea that lived on a rat so it was impossible for the Jews to cause the plague. So when you read here that I am {challenging the health of the community}, remember the rat flea.
Lou
Posted by Phil on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:36
In reply to Lou's response-hublaym? » johnLA, posted by Lou Pilder on August 28, 2013, at 5:49:21
>>I don't come here much so I couldn't have known why Scott left until you said it, Lou.
I do not want to be thought to be the blame for anyone leaving here.
>>Surely you jest. Dozens if not more.
>>Scott leaving because of Lou = Jews bringing bubonic plaque to Europe where half the population died the black death. Now Lou's a rat flea.
>>You need to rein your massive ego and quit stuffing your religion down everyone's throat here. You aren't persecuted, you're an *ssh*l*.
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:36
In reply to Re: Lou's response-hublaym?, posted by Phil on August 28, 2013, at 7:52:26
> >>I don't come here much so I couldn't have known why Scott left until you said it, Lou.
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> I do not want to be thought to be the blame for anyone leaving here.
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> >>Surely you jest. Dozens if not more.
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> >>Scott leaving because of Lou = Jews bringing bubonic plaque to Europe where half the population died the black death. Now Lou's a rat flea.
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> >>You need to rein your massive ego and quit stuffing your religion down everyone's throat here. You aren't persecuted, you're an *ssh*l*.
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> Friends,
It is written about me above. And what is written about me could induce disparaging, hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings against me and decrease the respect and regard and confidence in which I am held. This then, IMHO, could keep those that want to be free from addiction and depression captive to the darkness in their lives and possibly lead to their death by suicide and/or the murder of others. This is because readers could discount what I write here that I think could save lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions on the basis that readers could think that what the poster writes about me is true. But is it true? How could one know if what the poster writes about me is true or not? Let us take a look.
In ,[...quit stuffing your religion down everyone's throat here...], a reader ignorant of all that I find myself in here might think that I am doing such. But is that really the case? You see, I am abiding by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung and attempting to honor his TOS like others here. What I write here is optional for readers to read, for no one is going to be tested to see igf they understand what I post about and be penalized for not knowing such just as other posters here post from their perspective. And I do post from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me and abide by the prohibitions to me from Mr Hsiung that prevents me from posting what I need to, in order for what has been revealed to me to be posted here that I think could save lives and free people from addiction and depression. IN fact, the core of what I need to post has not been posted here yet.
Now one of the aspects of Judaism that has been revealed to me that I need to post in order for people to be freed, is what I have been writing here about concerning a new heart and a new spirit. I have not posted what I need to because of he prohibitions to me here by Mr. Hsiung. But let us look at a passage from the scriptures that the Jews use. This comes from the book called Ezekiel, going to the 36th chapter, starting with verse 26. I am using a popular bible that does not have the best translation from the original language and I have been revealed the depth of what this passage means that can not be seen in this passage.Ezekiel 36, starting with verse 26:
26: A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh.
27: And I will put my spirit within you: and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements, and do them.
28: And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God
Now those that are ignorant of Judaism may not know of the riches that are in that passage, and it is those riches that have been revealed to me that I have come here to reveal to you. Reveal to you so that you have what could lead you out of the darkness of depression and addiction by you knowing of the hope that is awaiting you.
This new heart and new spirit leads you to another realm. A realm where there is no depression or addiction and no pain or sorrow or death. This is offered freely and without price. I can not stuff this down anyone's throat, for it is not even permitted for me to post what I need to here, due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung which I am abiding by.
Lou
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Posted by johnLA on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:36
In reply to , posted by on December 31, 1969, at 18:00:00
hi p-
not sure what you are asking, but i'll take a guess...
something called instagram? is like a new facebook thing i notice my nieces are now in to more than 'old' fb. i use neither by the way.
for psych stuff i have found the following to be helpful;
'no more panic' is a uk site. very positive and upbeat and supportive. more about anxiety/panic, but depression and other conditions are covered too.
askpatient.com i like for med reviews
'depression tribe' and 'anxiety tribe' are like the facebook for people of these conditions. it's a bit too big for me, but take a look around.
my favorite place is a small chatroom called 'mixed nuts depression chat.' very small group of people that are fun and positive, but also serious when need be.
there are some more. but, that will get you started.
be good to see you 'in' mixed nuts!
john
Posted by johnLA on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:36
In reply to Lou's response-hublaym? » johnLA, posted by Lou Pilder on August 28, 2013, at 5:49:21
lou-
'believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.' i know you like marvin gaye as i do.
to be honest i wasn't thinking of you when i said 'drama' in my post. actually the drama i was talking about ironically was postings by other posters on one of the other boards. the ones i remembered had nothing to do with you. i read people's posts getting upset with each other, that again had nothing to do with you.
also, i know nothing of sls' whereabouts. i'm hoping he is sippin' a mai thai on a beach in tahiti. i appreciate you making me notice that i probably should not have posted what i did about him. i was trying to use him as an example of people taking 'breaks' from babble for all sorts of reasons.
anyway, sorry if you misunderstood my post. it really had nothing to do with you.
john
Posted by johnLA on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:37
In reply to Not A Single Notification From Babble A First, posted by Phillipa on August 27, 2013, at 10:41:18
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:37
In reply to Re: Lou's response-hublaym? » Lou Pilder, posted by johnLA on August 28, 2013, at 12:56:13
> lou-
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> 'believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.' i know you like marvin gaye as i do.
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> to be honest i wasn't thinking of you when i said 'drama' in my post. actually the drama i was talking about ironically was postings by other posters on one of the other boards. the ones i remembered had nothing to do with you. i read people's posts getting upset with each other, that again had nothing to do with you.
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> also, i know nothing of sls' whereabouts. i'm hoping he is sippin' a mai thai on a beach in tahiti. i appreciate you making me notice that i probably should not have posted what i did about him. i was trying to use him as an example of people taking 'breaks' from babble for all sorts of reasons.
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> anyway, sorry if you misunderstood my post. it really had nothing to do with you.
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> johnj,
You wrote,[...the drama was on another board with other people...].
Now since there is not a link to that board showing who the people are and what the context is in, then anyone could think that they are the subject person in the drama that you do not blame sls for leaving for a bit.
If you could post a link to that thread in question, then others that could think that it is them to be the subject person(s) in your post here could have the opportunity to respond to you. For if anyone is blamed unfairly for another leaving here, then that could IMHHHO cause harm to those that could think that it is them, even if they misunderstand, for how could they know who you are referring to unless you post a citation here showing why you do not blame sls for leaving for a bit?
Lou
Posted by johnLA on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:38
In reply to Lou's reply-ekspoastpaktoe » johnLA, posted by Lou Pilder on August 28, 2013, at 13:25:32
shoot lou...
i wish i could delete that drama deal. you are right; it could make many people, not just you, feel attacked. that was not my intention, but i see your point.
sigh.
i was just quickly giving phillips some ideas why posting seems to be down. i realize now i need to be more careful. thanks.
i also regret using sls' name in my post. that was pretty ignorant too.
as far as posting links i just can't do it. i just don't have the energy. sorry about that.
again, i will do my best to be more careful about generalizations in my posts.
john
Posted by sleepygirl2 on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:38
In reply to Lou's response-hublaym? » johnLA, posted by Lou Pilder on August 28, 2013, at 5:49:21
Oh dear, Lou. Are you taking ANY medication??? Even a little?
Posted by Willful on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:38
In reply to Lou's response-hublaym? » johnLA, posted by Lou Pilder on August 28, 2013, at 5:49:21
what?????
what the heck are you talking about?????
Willful
Posted by Phillipa on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:39
In reply to Re: what?????, posted by Willful on August 28, 2013, at 19:23:35
Who knows but I'm not able to respond to the posts as I don't read them from a Jewish perspective. As I am not of that Religion. So I think different. I am different. Is something wrong with not be Jewish? If so that is discrimination Phillipa
Posted by johnLA on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:39
In reply to Re: what?????, posted by Phillipa on August 28, 2013, at 20:02:02
p-
did you read the recs i made to you about some other places to check-out?
really curious to see if you would like mixed nuts! :)
john
Posted by Laney on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:39
In reply to phillipa, posted by johnLA on August 28, 2013, at 21:55:32
I pretty much stay away from babble because of it's format and the lack of activity and yes, Lou of course. Mental health affects everyone, including Christians and every faith under the sun I'm sure. I just wish he'd stay away. I don't think he's helping anyone!
Laney
Posted by Phillipa on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:39
In reply to phillipa, posted by johnLA on August 28, 2013, at 21:55:32
John would you babblemail me?
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:40
In reply to Re: phillipa, posted by Laney on August 29, 2013, at 10:44:25
> I pretty much stay away from babble because of it's format and the lack of activity and yes, Lou of course. Mental health affects everyone, including Christians and every faith under the sun I'm sure. I just wish he'd stay away. I don't think he's helping anyone!
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> LaneyL,
What you have written about me here could induce hostile and disagreeable and disparaging feelings and opinions against me ,and decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held. This is because you have not posted a citation to specify what it is about me here that makes you want to stay away from here because of me. Then readers could think that it is *anything* about me that makes you want to stay away because of me. This could be that I post concerning how one can be released from the captivity from addiction and depression by divine accomplishment as revealed to me from a Jewish perspective. You also do not state why you wish I would stay away. This could stigmatize me an IMHO cause hatred to be induced in a sub set of people here to hate me and other Jews and act out their hatred so that I and other Jews could become a victim of anti-Semitic violence. If you could post your reasons for what you wrote about me here, then others could make up their own minds about what it is if they can see it. And I could also have the opportunity to respond to you and show the context of whatever you write about me.
Lou
Posted by Willful on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:40
In reply to Re: what?????, posted by Phillipa on August 28, 2013, at 20:02:02
I really don't think this is a question of Jewishness whatsoever.
From what I read, Lou thinks he's being accused of driving Scott away from.
From what I infer, that suggests that Lou probably does have something to do with why Scott hasn't posted recently-- a fact that I have noticed and been concerned about.
If this is so-- and Scott's disappearance has anything to do with his exchanges with Lou, or with Lou's behavior here, or with Admin's unwillingness to limit Lou's acting out here-- I would very much like to know.
I am really disturbed to find that the one person's negative influence can, like the butterfly effect, move through an entire message board so as to be toxic on such a level.
Willful
Posted by Phillipa on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:40
In reply to Re: what?????, posted by Willful on August 29, 2013, at 20:12:40
Not just Scott, Laney, & I know a lot of others. Since they didn't respond on this thread I can't speak for them. They must have already left. Soon it could be Lou's board. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:41
In reply to Re: what?????, posted by Willful on August 29, 2013, at 20:12:40
> I really don't think this is a question of Jewishness whatsoever.
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> From what I read, Lou thinks he's being accused of driving Scott away from.
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> From what I infer, that suggests that Lou probably does have something to do with why Scott hasn't posted recently-- a fact that I have noticed and been concerned about.
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> If this is so-- and Scott's disappearance has anything to do with his exchanges with Lou, or with Lou's behavior here, or with Admin's unwillingness to limit Lou's acting out here-- I would very much like to know.
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> I am really disturbed to find that the one person's negative influence can, like the butterfly effect, move through an entire message board so as to be toxic on such a level.
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> WillfulW,
What you wrote about me could induce hostile, disagreeable and disparaging opinions and feelings against me and decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held. This is because there is not a citation of a URL of what you say is a negative influence and be toxic on such a level. This then can lead others to think of a lot of things as what you wrote about me which opens the door to speculation. This could stigmatize me and arouse anti-Semitic feelings if the reader thinks that what is the *negative influence* could be my postings to save lives and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me. In particular, but not limited to, my recent posting concerning a new heart and a new spirit that comes from the scriptures that the Jews use as in Ezekiel 36:26-28 that I recently posted here.
If you could post a URL that you use to substantiate what you write about me here, then readers could make their own decision as to if what you write about me here is true or not and I could respond to you and show the context that whatever you post about me here is in.
Lou
Posted by herpills on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:41
In reply to Re: what?????, posted by Willful on August 29, 2013, at 20:12:40
It's all so ridiculous isn't it?
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 30, 2013, at 14:44:41
In reply to Re: what????? » Willful, posted by Phillipa on August 29, 2013, at 20:36:49
> Not just Scott, Laney, & I know a lot of others. Since they didn't respond on this thread I can't speak for them. They must have already left. Soon it could be Lou's board. Phillipa
P,
What you wrote that readers could think is about me could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings against me and decrease the respect and confidence in which I am held. This is because there is not a reason cited by you, as to what I have posted, for the people that you say have left, and it could be thought by a subset of people that they left because of my postings here. This could mean that readers could speculate that the postings of mine from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me is why they left. This could cause me to be stigmatized and put me and other Jews in a false light, for I post here like others and abide by the prohibitions to me by Mr Hsiung and the rules as any other human being can try to do. If you could post what you use to substantiate what it is by a URL of a post from me that you use in your writing about me here, then readers could make their own determination as to what you say about me is true or not and I could respond to you and show the context.
Lou
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