Posted by alexandra_k on September 14, 2013, at 23:04:39
In reply to Re: Social Skills, posted by alexandra_k on September 3, 2013, at 19:13:56
maybe at some point i'll get inspired to do a proper literature review and sort this stuff out properly...
introversion / extroversion
low stimulus / high stimulus (seeking. need of course to distinguish this from the different idea of impoverished environments - the later distinction doesn't map)
high levels of autonomic arousal / low levels of autonomic arousal
internally motivated / externally motivated
low maintenance / high maintenance (ok, i just threw that one in there)there is a lot of stuff... a lot of pop culture - which complicates things... i suspect i should avoid the pop culture stuff... but i have been influenced by 'quiet - the power of introversion in a world that can't stop talking' and related stuff. even though i haven't read it. there is of course something to it... and to the idea that some people won't do any work unless you are on their backs all the time whereas other people can't do any work unless you leave them alone so they can freaking get on with it.
one idea is there is a difference... different ways of being... i do worry about this thought because it seems dangerous in a sense... but i really do think that the former is a *better* way of being. one that is... selected for, yeah. or not. but only not because it doesn't have a particular genetic basis since it is mostly the result of socialization (so the heritability component is lacking).
creativity and innovation they are putting down as individualist activities. not arising from teams. nice to have a job where you are *trusted* to do your work from anywhere... any country... anyplace you like... especially if you make enough money to put yourself someplace nice...
or not. stay with your group sharing your pumpkins if you like.
i suspect it is more a case of needs must. the loudest voice for collectivism is the voices of those who are incapable of looking after themselves. the old people (of the tribe. hey the old people of my tribe are having trouble adjusting to things like the rights of women, too). the borderline intellectually handicapped. of course that is the answer to hte health care crisis. as it always was: that is womens work. your job is to stay in the tribe and look after the tribe. otherwise you have been *urbanized* we spit on you.
i saw a pic of obama chatting to a girl... 'what a wonderful block tower! you must have worked real hard to build that! let me take some of your blocks and give them to the kids who have been sleeping all day!' that is the fear of welfare cultures... of course the fear of lack of welfare culture is the thought that you 1) might find yourself in the wrong group or 2) that the appropriate attitude is one of pity or empathy or assistance rather than blame. how do we decide? can't vs won't? i don't understand how we decide... no... i don't understand how we *should* decide. because we don't want to encourage / reward them... but we might find ourself in the wrong group...
maybe it is about the possibility of getting out? but then you still have the cases of 'can't'. i suspect most are about 'cant'. it is just that when the crabs panic and start clawing at you when you try and leave that things become harder...
was i a crab for my father?
for sure.
sigh.
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