Posted by Gabbee on June 1, 2008, at 2:23:16
In reply to Re: samaritans can be good or really crap + Lost, posted by soozzoos on May 29, 2008, at 10:00:19
people might be treated the way we are, but they wouldn't be expected to put up with it, and it wouldn't be proudly displayed progressive thinking.
It's seems the fact that it's a life and death situation is just not being grasped.
I've tried the Crisis line I think four times.
Three times it exacerbated my suicidal feelings, and one time it just made me really angry.It felt like being hit over the head with the fact that if you have a mental illness you're supposed to be happy with anything you can get
and there's no accountability.So be happy if it's someone without a clue telling you to take a hot bath. Or someone trained to "mirror" what you say-- which makes me feel patronized depersonalized and annoys the hell out of me
Has anyone even studied on the front lines whether that helps or not? Or is it some theory that makes sense in print? I know it's always made things worse for me when I'm in crisisI know the idea is that anything is better than nothing. Having someone just listen is enough, but why? Why would that help?
"I'm so low on societies priority list that someone going through the motions is supposed to be enough?"Oh, so the side effects of the stroke have gone from mild, to *severe* cognitive impairment?" I'm sorry there's nothing I can help you with, he tried his best but sometimes with stroke patients that's just the way it goes, you can't help all of them"
He was one of our volunteer brain surgeons, with two weeks intensive training of course"
"There's really no recourse, how can you prove you weren't this way before? You didn't pay for the surgery, he was a volunteer, and no one will take you seriously anyway because you are severely cognitively impaired. Ironic isn't it, ha ha!"
There's a million places you can have someone listen without actually hearing what you're saying, or offering any tangible help. I thought that was part of the problem, not a solution So When I called a suicide hotline, silly me, I kind of expected something more substantial.
Hello Ambulance Service
Hi, I I am having chest pains, and it's hard to breathe
"Oh, I hear you're having chest pains"
"Yes, and I'm scared"
"I hear you're having chest pains and it's upsetting you"
"yes"
"Can you try to focus on the good things going on in your body, maybe the body parts that don't hurt?"
"I tried that, it's in my chest but it's affecting my entire body, I feel like I'm going to die"
"well I'm glad you called here then, I hear you feel like you're going to die"
Okay
time for bed.
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