Posted by Gabbix2 on September 14, 2005, at 20:53:42
In reply to Re: Adam Eve gained knowledge, but it turned » Tamar, posted by alexandra_k on September 14, 2005, at 19:49:20
> Interesting...
> :-)
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> > even if God is omniscient, I don’t think it diminishes the idea of human free will. Even if God knows what choices people will make, they’re still free to make those choices.
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> Not sure that you quite get the problem...
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> If god knows what choices people will make, then they aren't free to act differently. If god knew that eve would eat from the tree then eve was not free to refrain from eating from the tree. given that god knows she will do this she HAS to do it and there is no way around this.
>No, they are free to act as they will, it's just that God will know, it's not necessarily that the acts have been planned by God.
I'm only saying this as an observer, not as a believer of these particular details.
The question comes up much around the Judas story, without Judas the death and resurrection would not have happened, so some say, it must have been preordained that Judas would betray Jesus, and therefore he was a puppet of God, and not truly evil.
Others say no, that God would have chosen someone he knew would betray Christ, and therefore it was still Judas's free will.
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