Posted by jay on March 1, 2005, at 19:57:35
In reply to Re: (2) One or Six??? » jay, posted by alexandra_k on February 28, 2005, at 22:04:13
> > You aren't "killing" anybody if you operate on this guy,
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> No, you aren't killing anybody. You are letting them die.
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Death being a natural occurance, it is not I who is letting them die. I didn't give them 'organ failure'!> >because A) as Einstein said, God does not play dice,
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> So because Einstein believed the subatomic world was not indeterminate (despite him fairly much showing that it is) we should not allow this man to die? I am afraid I do not follow the argument...
>It's a simple logical positivist argument. Just because this person has organs to donate, as do millions of others, does not mean they should die for the sake of *each of the other individuals.*>>>You are lumping the six people together as if they are the only people in a world of millions that need an organ transplant. Do ya know what I mean?? Huh? :)
> >...that's just how it is...etc...
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> 'How things are' does not imply anything about how things *should* be or what we *should* do.
>No, we are given certain choices...a..b...c..you either do or you don't. *Should* is based on a number of variables...from cultural norms and values to individual ones. Sociology and psychology come into play here.
> >and B) fate is the weight of circumstances.
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> ???
>I take it you haven't read much Kierkegaard, eh? :) (It's a quote from a translation of one of his texts.)
> >Why not reverse it, and say those six people are putting others at risk for death because of their needs?
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> I guess they are. But in this instance one other. We have to choose between six deaths or one death.
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Sorry, but I still see these as 6 individual seperate, deaths. Each of those individual persons are putting one other person at risk of death for the want of an organ transplantJay :)
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