Posted by alexandra_k on March 8, 2014, at 14:48:18
In reply to Re: psychology of dependency on the government?? » alexandra_k, posted by SLS on March 8, 2014, at 1:24:33
yeah. but then different people have different ideologies.
e.g., about 'minimal laws' so people should be free to do more things like carry guns, take whatever drugs they like etc...
about 'paternalistic' laws that are meant to be for society's own good... so that (for example) perhaps immunisation is required since even if the odd individual takes a hit the society as a whole profits considerably...
i think most people do have complicated mixed feelings about people who seem to make it a lifestyle choice not to work... to instead take some kind of government benefit... in this country people find it very upsetting that some women seem to make it a career choice to have baby after baby after baby after baby... getting more from the government the more mouths they have to feed... the concern is that a fair few women in that position spend that money at the bar (or their current boyfriend spends it at the bar) or whatever... that the money isn't getting to the kids the way it should be...
what to do?
the situation is complicated. should the government be allowed to enforce sterility or make it a condition on benefits in some cases? (there are things that happen with sterility in intellectual handicap / group home cases - yes?) should the government take the kids away? that happens in some cases... the kids often have this unfortunate tendency to prefer to be with their (overly permissive) parents and typically they are unable to tolerate increased rules / boundaries. just stop giving that money? just let them... die?
?
the situation is complicated.
you kinda want to blame the parents. the mother most obviously. since there is there to blame. the irresponsible / absent fathers. but ask the mother what it was like for her growing up... in a lot of cases... they don't know any different.
how is her situation different from that of a trophy wife who needs to (at the end of the day) tow whatever line her husband sets down? why not hate the later? her standard of living is typically higher... better food... transport options... peace and quiet (daycare facilities) etc... she looks after the kids better?
does she teach them the value of...
uh...
hard work?
?
is that the moral here?
?
why think that people living off government handouts don't work hard?
and why think that people who don't... do?
?
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