Posted by bleauberry on February 25, 2009, at 18:38:47
In reply to Re: Anyone taken Threelac for depression or anxiety?, posted by Jimmyboy on February 25, 2009, at 15:55:13
> Here is a list of things that have helped me and others I have read about ( I am sure I may leave some out)
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> Supps
> 1. Omega 3's
> 2. Bosweillia
> 3. Sesamin
> 4. Borage Oil ( GLA)
> 5. CurcuminFish oil omega 3 is actually strongly pro-inflammatory to me. That is, it causes profoud inflammation. I don't know much about the others mentioned above.
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> Prescription Meds
> 1. Celecoxib ( celebrex)
> 2. low dose hydrocortisone ( careful with this - see a doctor before and get cortisol levels tested) - but probably the strongest of the bunch to fight inflammation - too much is a very bad thing though.
> 3. Wellbutrin as well as other AD's have some anti-inflammatory effects ( a possible explaination why they sometimes actually work IMO)Not sure about the antidepressants. Some of them have been strongly inflammatory to me. Lexapro I believe was a potent anti-inflammatory, where Prozac was a potent pro-inflammatory. For me.
Actually the best cheapest quickest route and would probably be the first line for most MDs is good ole Ibuprofen. Note, not acetaminophen.
Brain fog is most likely the toxins secreted by the dying pathogens, as well as the decaying parts of their bodies, all of which are swirling around in the body in quantities too great to be excreted quickly. One can reduce the dose, or approach the dose in pulsing strategies, to minimize the Herx reaction. Whenever I had fierce brain fog and fatigue during a Herx reaction on an antibiotic, Ibuprofen helped more than anything, as a pro-energy, anti-brainfog, and antidepressant. Yeah, a mood lift on Ibuprofen. Weird, eh? Inflammation is a hidden disease I believe.
Another helpful supplement is to take activated charcoal and/or bentonite clay at bedtime (at least two hours after food and other supplements). These will absorb all the junk and dead stuff in the intestine and bowels so they do not get reabsorbed.
Hydrocortisone is definitely effective. Was for me anyway. And all I took was 1.25mg for a week and then 2.5mg for another week. Usually physiological replacement doses for someone with low cortisol (but not Addisons disease) has a max dose of 20mg. This is right about at boundary where it could enter the danger zone of beginning to slow down or shut down the adrenal glands. 5mg to 15mg is very safe. These are tiny fractions of the doses used for other conditions, which by the way give hydrocortisone its hazardous reputation. Hypoadrenalism is commonly treated with 5mg to 20mg with negligible risk.
There is actually a prescription med specifically to soak up the toxins in the blood during a Herx reaction and darn I can't recall its name. I'll repost if I can find it.
One more thing. Bromelain in high doses. At regular doses it is a digestive enzyme. At high doses some of it gets through the intestines into the blood, where it actually devours garbage floating around. That lessens inflammation and brain fog.
In the book Amalgam Illness the author says the best anti-brainfog med he used during detox was Hydergine 10mg. That's kind of a high dose for most people, and I've never tried it.
I have always wondered if Threelac actually works. Since you are having a significant identifiable Herx reaction, I guess it is killing some stuff.
Whether candida/yeast is the core cause of your symptoms or a contributing complication to them, getting it under control can do nothing but help improve symptoms of all kinds, strengthen your body to fight other things, spend energy where it is needed rather than in a battle, and make other treatments more likely to succeed.
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