Posted by Lou Pilder on July 24, 2015, at 6:57:26
In reply to Lou's reply-The Hsiung-Pilder discussion-tu quoque » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on June 2, 2015, at 9:11:30
> > > Be advised, my friend, that I do not accept any reason in your thinking to justify leaving posts where they are originally posted that could foster hatred toward the Jews here to be seen as supportive and in your thinking will be good for this community as a whole. You say that you only take responsibility for posts that you author. Your posts here that attempt to justify leaving anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive where those posts are originally posted, is what you could take responsibility for, for you have rejected the opportunity that has been given to you to remediate and clarify that you do not consider the statements to be supportive. And by this rejection of yours to post a disclaimer to those statements, in my thinking you are saying that you will take responsibility for any injuries or deaths or suicides that arise out of readers seeing that you are allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive where those posts are originally posted, and worse, you are rejecting the opportunity to post a disclaimer to show otherwise.
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> > 1. The only messages I take responsibility for are my own, but I do also take responsibility for my administrative decisions.
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> > 2. I see the risk of deaths or suicides arising from those posts as low, so I can accept it. Like I can accept the risk of deaths or suicides arising from your posts.
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> > 3. I'm pleased you referred to me as your friend.
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> > Bob
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> Mr. Hsiung,
> You wrote,[...I see the risks of deaths or suicide arising from those posts as low, so I can accept it. Like I can accept the risks of deaths or suicides arising from your posts...].
> I am unsure as to what you want readers to think by you posting that you can accept it. You also say that the risk is low, but that could mean that there could be deaths or suicides arising out of the fact that you are allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive and worse that you are deliberately leaving the anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen that way because in your thinking by you allowing them to be seen as civil, it will be good for your community here as a whole.
> This could lead readers to think that by you doing this, you are deliberately misrepresenting your terms of service here in order to have your community improved in your mind. This improvement in your thinking overrules even deaths of readers and innocent people that could be killed by your readers here as being victims of anti-Semitic/anti-Islamic violence here that could result from you allowing the anti-Semitic propaganda here to be seen as civil and supportive by you and your deputies of record and also allowing those posters here that are in concert with you to post with impunity what could decrease the respect and regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
> You say that what I post has some probability of causing deaths or suicides to readers here. But you do not specify which posts, if there are any, that you are using to make such a claim about me. For the claim could be false, and I could show such if you were not to evade your responsibility to post the URLs of such posts that I am being accused of that could cause a death or suicide. I have posted the posts URLs here in showing the anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed to be seen here as supportive by all of you that I think have a responsibility and duty to sanction.
> My posts are facts, facts that could save lives and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions. You say that there are posts by me here that could cause suicide and deaths. That could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me so that there could be readers that are killed and commit suicide and innocent people killed by your readers here that use Jews and others as outlets for their sadism as a result of the seeing anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed by you and your deputies of record to be seen as supportive, and worse, that you are deliberately allowing them to stay that way because you say that you have in your mind some type of vision that by allowing anti-Semitic hate to be seen as supportive, it will for you and your community as a whole, even by being deliberately indifferent to my notifications that if you did act on them, then I could have the opportunity to refute your vision of an improved community that you say will result by leaving anti-Semitic hate unsanctioned here.
> Your accusation against me here that I post what could cause deaths or suicides, could in and of itself, IMHO, materially contribute to deaths and suicides by the tactic of evasion. The evasion is done by accusing me of posting what could cause deaths and suicides, where no posts are given by you. This could lead readers to be taken away from the true fact in question of that you and your deputies of record have left anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen here as supportive. This tactic is sometimes referred to as {red herring} or {shifting the blame} or {you to} in a transparent attempt to justify hatred toward the Jews to be allowed to stand by you.
> Many before you have used the same fallacious tactics as justification to arouse hatred toward the Jews that have resulted in millions of Jews being murdered. They can not speak here. I will speak for them.
> Lou PilderMr. Hsiung,
I think that you have a responsibility to delete or sanction statements here that could dehumanize Jews in a timely manner and that failure to do so could contribute to the deaths of innocent people. You say that the probability of that happening is low, but that could mean to a subset of readers that you do recognize from your vision as a psychiatrist, that the statements that I am trying to get you to purge from here that contain anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation against me that are allowed by you to be seen as supportive and that in your thinking by you allowing those statements to be seen that way, it will be good for your community as a whole. I do not see how the deaths that could come from here to innocent people as a result of them seeing that you are allowing anti-Semitic hate to be seen as supportive here, to be good for any community as a whole even though you are putting out such ancient thinking that has been ruled to be a crime against humanity by world courts, that what will be good for the community as a whole will be the determining factor as to if hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be seen as supportive here by you. The thinking, to murder all the children deemed inferior by the leaders, called infanticide, on the grounds that it would be good for their community as a whole, has been ruled to be a crime against humanity. The thinking that slavery was justified in that the slaves were inferior people and that slavery will be good for the community has been ruled to be a crime against humanity. The thinking that segregation will be good for the community as a whole which stigmatized those segregated to be seen as inferior people has come to an end here in the U.S. in 1954. The thinking that genocide will be good for the community as a whole has been ruled a crime against humanity. This {good for the community s a whole} thinking for you to allow anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen by you as supportive turns my stomach.
Here is another one, just like the other ones that you in your thinking will be good for the community as a whole by allowing the anti-Semitic hate to be seen by you as being supportive. In this post, Jews are made to be seen as inferior people as their religion is being replaced, which is a lie that Jews have been replaced and this lie contributes to anti-Semitic hatred as anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews called replacement theology or supersessionism, that I have been objecting for years to have you act on as putting down Jews which you agree constitutes anti-Semitic thought as posted here with impunity by you.
Let us read this post as it is, for it is what it is. The lie that it was {God's plan} leads to replacement theology which is anti-Semitic on its face. Your site perpetuates this ancient flame of hatred against the Jews and as long as you refuse to address this post as to that it is either supportive or not, readers could think that it is supportive by you so that the fire of hate is still burning.
Lou
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