Posted by Lou Pilder on May 11, 2014, at 20:42:19
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on May 11, 2014, at 8:56:54
> > A. You will not post a repudiation to the anti-Semitic statement because if you do, the readers that are Jews could have hate induced into them toward the poster.
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> True. And not just readers who are Jews.
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> > B. If so, what is your rationale for making that claim?
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> My rationale for thinking P could hate Q?
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> > C. If you do not post a repudiation to the statement, would those Jews not have hatred induced into them toward the poster, and if so, why?
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> They still might have hatred induced into them, for example, by the poster, or others, including you, but I wouldn't be stoking it, or inducing it myself.
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> BobMr. Hsiung,
You wrote that you would not post a repudiation to the anti-Semitic statement, {No non-Christian will enter heaven}, as you state that Jews and others could have hate induced into them toward the poster if you did. As your rationale is not stated, you ask if the rationale that you use to make that claim concerns P hating Q.
P is a member of the group, "G". The group is the set of people that have in their faith that they can enter heaven without being a Christian which includes Jews which makes that statement an anti-Semitic statement on the basis that it could lead readers to think that Judaism is inferior to Christianity and Jews could feel put down due to that you will not post a repudiation to it even though it is against your rules for that type of statement to be posted.
The overriding question that I have to you is what is your rationale for saying that if you did post a repudiation to the anti-Semitic statement, Jews and others could have hate induced into them toward the poster, and we are in discussion here about {P hating Q} if you post a repudiation to the statement in question. If you see that you can see something else other that P hating Q, please post what it is and your rationale for such.
You also state that you would not be stoking hatred toward the Jews by allowing the anti-Semitic statement to stand. Your TOS says otherwise unless we go over the following and find something that could mean you do not by leaving the anti-Semitic statement to stand:
True or false:
A. It will be good for this community as a whole for me to allow anitsemitic statements to stand, Lou so hatred toward the Jews could be stoked by me, Lou, by allowing it to stand.
B. Anti-semitic statements are supportive by me here, which could stoke that furnace of hatred toward the Jews and I will continue to allow those type of statements, Lou.
C. One match could start a forest fire, Lou, so the fire of hate toward the Jews and the others in,{ No non-Christian will enter heaven} could come from here because I am allowing it by not posting a repudiation to the statement in question and I will continue to allow analogous statements that insult Jews and Islamic people and others in the statement being allowed here.
D. My prohibitions to you here, Lou, keep you from posting a repudiation yourself to the statement.
E. As long as the anti-Semitic statement is allowed to stand by me here, Lou, readers could think that the statement is supportive because my TOS says that being supportive takes precedence and therefor hate could be stoked by me, Lou, and I will continue to allow it.
F. Propaganda against the Jews in the likeness of the statement in question will be allowed to be posted here, Lou, because I am allowing {No non-Christian will enter heaven} to stand, so a subset of readers could think that I am ratifying what the statement could purport, which could lead a subset of readers to have hatred induced into them toward the Jews, Lou, because I say that I do what in my thinking will be good for this community as a whole and for readers to try and trust me, Lou, as here that I am allowing the anti-Semitic statement to stand, Lou.
Never again
Lou Pilder
poster:Lou Pilder
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