Posted by Lou Pilder on March 14, 2014, at 19:09:34
In reply to Re: The Hsiung-Pilder discussion, posted by Dr. Bob on March 14, 2014, at 14:29:49
> > D. The "good" that will come to this community by you, Mr. Hsiung, leaving the statement in question un repudiated by you, is:
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> The goal of the policy is to respond to incivility and at the same time not to make those who have been uncivil feel too accused or put down.
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> > I have thought that there could be a subset of people that are a little bit smarter than me that could understand what Mr Hsiung is saying. But after reviewing the issue, I find that by posting a repudiation of a vulgar word, that does not include repudiating the insult to Judaism and those other faiths that is plainly visible in the post in question. For one to think that, could not then those thinkers have to jump to a conclusion? And anyway, just because there could be a subset of readers just a little bit smarter than me, that does not mean that intelligence is what could have those in that subset think that repudiating a vulgar word automatically repudiate everything else that the poster wrote in other posts by the poster.
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> I'm not smart enough to understand the tax code, and don't like parts of it, but still I accept it.
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> BobFriends,
You can see one of the arguments that Mr. Hsiung presents here to leave the anti-Semitic statement un repudiated by him. What he is using is called an analogy.
An analogy can be true or false. I would like for readers to follow what I will present here in relation for you to determine on your own if the analogy put forth here by Mr. Hsiung is a false analogy or not.
The stakes are high. For if the analogy is true, then anti-Semitic statements could at Mr. Hsiung's will, be allowed to be immune from his own rules to not post what is not supportive because being supportive takes precedence. And by leaving the insult to Judaism un sanctioned, a subset of readers could think that the statement is not against Mr. Hsiung's rules and is conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of the community. That could arouse antisemitic feelings and stoke the furnace of hate toward the Jews and could lead to the murder of Jews and also lead a subset of readers to feel humiliation, ridicule and scorn and could be dragged down onto a vortex of despair which could lead one coming here in depression looking for a way out, to kill themselves.
Now let's look at the literary aspect of what an analogy is. The use of an analogy is reasoning from parallel cases comparing different things in order to persuade readers to be led to some point of similarity. A false analogy is when the two things being compared are not similar enough to warrant the comparison and then can be seen as an intentional attempt to persuade readers to what misleads them. The psychology of the false analogy is that the false analogy attempts to accept that if two things are similar in some respect, they are similar in some other respects.
An analogy works like this:
A and B are shown to be similar
A has property P
so also B must have that property
In a false analogy, A&B are different in a way which affects whether they both have property P
In a false analogy, there could be also false facts presented in the reasoning that could influence the uninformed.
Now let us look at what is 'A" and what is "B" and what is "P".
Lou
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