Posted by Lou Pilder on November 15, 2013, at 20:04:58
In reply to Lou's response-, posted by Lou Pilder on November 15, 2013, at 10:52:01
> > > Lou so this makes you special like an Angel do the Jews believe in Angels as I don't know. So if I'm not a Jew and I ignore the message. I am not responsible? Phillipa
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> > Good piece of logic, Phillipa.
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> > If one does not listen to the pleas of Lou Pilder, a Jew, is that any different from Lou Pilder ignoring the pleas of a Christian to accept Jesus as the savior? Perhaps Lou should seek tolerance of the pleas and beliefs of others as others have been asked to tolerate those of Lou. I think that both pleas come from the heart, even if they are rejected reciprocally.
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> > - Scott
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> Friends,
> It is written above. It is difficult for me to have the understanding of what the poster is wanting others to understand from what he wrote for there is much more here about this.
> The plea "to accept Jesus as the Savior" is in a post that has been ruled to be not conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of this community if the statement includes that it is the {only} way to have Eternal Life and forgiveness from God.
> But this could be problematic because Mr Hsiung has not notated the following as to if it is or is not in the same category. The statement says something like,[...Christianity is the {only} religion that has a way back to God...].
> That statement puts down Jews and Islamic people and any other person that has a religion that does have a way back to God that is not a Christian religion. The statement insults Islamic people and Jewish people and Hindu people and all other people that have a religion that could have a way back to God other than the Christian way. The statement can be seen as civil and supportive here due to the nature of Mr. Hsiung's written terms of service here and his written policy that have not been changed yet, although there could be a change to the TOS here. I do not accept Mr. Hsiung allowing the statement to remain naked of any sanction until he changes the written TOS that can be seen now, to say something that would allow the statement to be civil and supportive. And even if he changes his written TOS here to allow it to stand, the statement could still put down Jews and Islamic people and the others that I have written here as included, and Islamic people and others could still consider the statement an insult to Islam and feel offended for if Mr Hsiung does make that written change to his TOS, he then could be seen as fostering insults to Islam and Judaism and the others by allowing the statement to be determined by him to be civil and supportive. This IMHO would be a worse thing for this community as it would allow hatred toward Jews and Islamic people and the others to be considered by a subset of readers to be supportive and good for this community as a whole because Mr. Hsiung says to trust him in that he does what will be good for this community as a whole.
> Here is the statement that a subset of readers could think is supportive and civil here due to the fact that it stands unsanctioned and Mr. Hsiung says that even a small insult could start a forest fire and that he does not wait to put it out, a fire of hate as I see it. And the fire could grow and grow and grow outside of this forum and just because it could start here does not mean that it could not spread beyond here as readers could carry the flame of hate to other communities as seeing it as supportive by a psychiatrist. Not just an ordinary psychiatrist, but one that writes books about on-line mental health.
> But it is much more than that. You see, the Christiandom member here can post that Christianity is the only religion that has a way back to God, but I am prohibited from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me that includes a way back to God from a Jewish perspective.
> Let us look at a post in question that I am objecting to here as being that it is allowed to stand as then supportive and civil.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20080404/msgs/832720.html
> And then this about Jews is posted and could be seen as civil here and supportive.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428781.htmlFriends,
The aspect of the message that Phillipa writes about that has Scott replying to, brings up as to what my message is. I have not posted the message due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsuing.
Now Scott writes,[...If one does not listen to the pleas of Lou Pilder, a Jew, is that any different from Lou PIlder ignoring the pleas of a Christian to accept Jesus as the Savior? ....]
Whatever the plea of mine is, it is not specified here.
And going on with what Scott wrote,[... Lou {should} seek tolerance of the pleas and beliefs of others as others have been asked to tolerate those of Lou..].
The issue here going on now is that there are statements that put down Jews and Islamic people and others that do not accept the claims of Christiandom. One stated above and here is another one.
Here the statement says that one of the top ten worst reasons for an organized religion is if the religion has an agenda not centered in Christ. The statement puts down Jews and Islamic people and all other religions that are organized and have an agenda not centered in Christ. The rule is in Mr. Hsiung's terms of service that is well-known. Yet today, the statement stands as being seen by a subset of readers as supportive and conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of this community. The statement is an insult to Judaism and Islam and the rest that I have included. And Mr Hsiung states that he does what will be good for this community and to try to trust him at that.
But the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me is not allowed by Mr. Hsiung for me to post here. That is then also good for this community as a whole? Whose being tolerant of whom?
Lou
to see this post:
look at the second list as #5
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20040729/msgs/378930.html
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1050116
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1054461.html