Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2013, at 16:09:16
In reply to Re: It has gone far beyond theoretical now » Dr. Bob, posted by 10derheart on July 2, 2013, at 13:31:10
> Okay, so you are trying to make some analogy between a psychiatrist/patient relationship and the relationship between you as an administrator and all the posters of Babble, correct?
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> I just don't get it. ... The analogy does not work for me.> How is this response by you helpful? It is always all so obfuscated when you do this. Can't you speak plainly? It is so very, very unhelpful in my opinion. ... We just want an open, welcome environment without put downs, accusations and insensitive rants. People *know* "real" life is not that way and they will have to cope without a pdoc or anyone else "making the problem go away." It is HARD. But do you really want them to completely have to do this here, under the strain of THIS kind of posting? Does PB have to be an exact replica of real life? I hope not.
That's the idea. Both are hard. If posters find they have the strength to do it here, they may find they have the strength to do it in real life.
And Babble isn't an *exact* replica. It's safer, and there's more support.
> Lou posts more and more accusations ... and yet on you go, oblivious to being accused personally of all kinds of things that are profoundly uncivil, and allowing your former deputies and more importantly, innocent, vulnerable posters to be accused of hatred
I don't read all of Lou's posts. That's one of my coping mechanisms. But if someone else thinks he's being uncivil -- and they notify me, using the notification system -- then I do read those posts.
> I used to come here for refuge.
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> You set up civility rules, and those very parameters drew some of us here, or at least kept us long term because of the prohibitions on bullying and the safety aspect.You make a good point, a refuge may help people find strength, too. Maybe Babble doesn't have to be either-or. What about a new Refuge board? Would it be enough to enforce civility the way I used to? Or would it also need to be considered uncivil, for example, to post something that might scare other posters?
> I would appreciate it if you would not change my subject lines, either. I get more than enough of this here. You can state your thoughts in the body of the post, can't you?
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> 10derheartI could. But I like having the freedom to express myself in the subject line, too.
Bob
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