Posted by Lou Pilder on June 14, 2013, at 7:38:13
In reply to Lou's reply-TOS, posted by Lou Pilder on June 14, 2013, at 7:07:10
> > > >>...there are years of outstanding requests/notifications from me to Mr Hsiung and his deputy now and his former deputies
> > >
> > > >>it is easy for others here to persuade you because you lack the facts that I could post. Yet today, I will have to wait for someone greater than me to have the power to force Mr Hsiung and his lackeys to respond to my years of outstanding requests/notifications.
> > >
> > > Force? Could you describe what you imagine that would look like, Lou? Is there some person or entity "greater than [you]" that can "force" the administrator of an online message board or others who volunteer[ed] to assist him to do or not do anything? I am eager to know more about this.
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> > >
> > > (Merriam-Webster)
> > > Definition of LACKEY
> > > 1a : footman 2, servant
> > > b : someone who does menial tasks or runs errands for another
> > > 2: a servile follower : toady
> > >
> > > Toady - one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors : sycophant
> > >
> > > Lol...you can't mean "toady." The last thing I ever did or can remember any deputy doing, was to flatter Dr. Bob or be a sycophant. What favors were to be gained? Borderline abuse, frustration, exasperation, disgust, bewilderment? Ahh...the rewards of deputy relations with disgruntled posters and Dr. Bob.
> > >
> > > Lou, could you clarify which meaning of lackey (including toady)you meant in your post? I may request an apology, but I'm unsure what you meant. I don't mind menial tasks or errands one bit - it is an honor to serve others. But servile follower or toady...seem to hold a different connotation.
> > >
> > > I have another question, Lou. In your HHHHH opinion, is a request/notification which is not replied to with the answer that you prefer, or are looking for, or that you think is correct, considered "outstanding?" I have been trying to figure out what you mean by "years of outstanding requests" for a long, long time.
> > >
> > > Take care, Lou.
> > >
> > > gardenergirl,
> > I apologise for any aspect of my use of the word, lackey, that you may have different thinking about the word that I do. I did not use it a "toady", and I have never heard of the word either until now.
> > My use of the word involved, simply, the aspect of a deputy here doing the tasks of the administration of the board such as redirecting posts, clarifying things, posting to be civil or deleting a post as listed as the duties of the deputies in the FAQ. The deputy is a person that carries out the wishes of the one deputizing them. The deputy generally does not deviate from the wishes of the superior and carries out tasks with authorization from the superior. I think that a deputy can not do what they want to do in their own mind, but carry out the wishes of the superior and if they object to what the superior wants done,they usually resign.
> > My apologies if the word was not the best word.
> > Lou
> >
> > 10,
> You wrote,[...I have been trying to figure out..years of outstanding requests...].
> The TOS here is that when a notification is sent, either the administration will address the statement in question on the board OR reply directly to the one notifying. I took Mr Hsiung at his word.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061018/msgs/699224.html
> If neither has been done, then the notification remains outstanding until one or the other happens.
> So in my notifications that I post reminders here to, that means that neither one of what the administration says that they will do has been done. For the TOS here also says that reminders can be posted for the administration to act. And then reminders to the reminders can also be posted.
> In the situation here where there are years of outstanding notifications/requests from me to the administration, that showsa pattern. For there is an {expectation} to the members that the administration will follow their own policy. And other members are assured that their notification will be acted on by the administration.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061018/msgs/698760.html
It is the assurance posted by the deputy here that leads members to think that the administration will honor their own terms of service. So this becomes what is known as a {redacted by respondent} tool of the administration to control the content. For if members are led to believe that notifications will be acted on, then when a statement is seen without sanction by the administration, members could think that what is in question is not only civil, but supportive, for Mr Hsiung states that he does not wait and support takes precedence.
In the statements that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings that are allowed to stand, Jews could be at risk of being victims of anti-Semitic violence by the nature hat someone could read a statement that is allowed to stand that purports hatred toward the Jews and the reader could think that it is supportive by the administration if allowed to stand. I am prohibited by Mr Hsiung to post here the historical parallels to this. Then hate could be harbored by the reader and the hate could be acted out by either the reader killing themselves or others or both. Then the question becomes that if the anti-Semitic statement was sanctioned, would the reader that took it a supportive have acted out hatred toward their selves or others? Mr Hsiung does not disagree with me that this could happen here as he has posted here. He states that {it may be good} for others to see that he does not have to act on my requests. My friends, do you not see that
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1045255
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130109/msgs/1045280.html