Posted by cloudydaze on August 3, 2006, at 21:36:05
In reply to Re: Suggesting violence--**trigger: crude** » cloudydaze, posted by gardenergirl on August 3, 2006, at 12:54:58
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> I recognized the joke and understood very well what it was about from the very beginning. But words matter. And choosing a behavior in the light of a feeling and belief matters.Words are just encoded thoughts. In fact, there is no way to express exactly what one is thinking, because after the process of putting it into words (encoding) and reading it (decoding) the message gets jumbled anyway. So I don't see why it matters so much!
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> You wrote that it's "unfortunate" that I took the joke as I did. I have to ask--unfortunate for whom? I feel quite fortunate whenever I experience an authentic feeling and feel confident enough to express it when I choose to.You expressed that you were offended. Do you think being offended is a good thing? I think it is an unfortunate thing. It's not about being confident in your feelings, it's about feelings that make you feel good, and ones that make you feel bad. If you think being offended is fortunate, more power to ya.
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> > Why is it okay and acceptable here to talk about hurting ourselves, but not ok to make a reference to violence toward others (esp since it was not meant to be serious)? Is hurting oneself more acceptable....why?
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> Here's how I view it. The former is an inward, self-contained behavior or urge that does not infringe on anyone else's rights or safety. The latter is an outward behavior directed towards others. It does infringe on others rights and safety regardless of whether it's a serious threat or not.I don't agree. If you post that you are feeling like hurting yourself, that is an outward behavior, and can infringe on other's feelings.
Technically there are a lot of things that offend me, i just don't tell anyone for the greater good. If it makes someone else feel better by posting that they are suicidal, then they should do it, regardless of how it makes ME feel. But, it is offensive and hurtful to me because it reminds me of when I used to do it.
The only way i am able to deal with anything is to forget it ever happened. If i remember, i start to slip.
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