Posted by tealady on May 29, 2006, at 22:23:52
In reply to Re: National differences, posted by Declan on May 29, 2006, at 20:11:32
> Hey Jan, I wonder about just talking about Australian politics. 'As a community of Australians here on PB we express extreme reservations about the morality of our government and hope that in the future it may find the love of truth' Ahem.
ROFL.. thanks for the laugh
I've known politicians who leave Dec, as they just can't take the corruption etc.. that's the problem.. it's too wearing trying to stand up to it.The last 6 years have been awful, but this lot only has a little while left.
> I think imperialism/spheres of influence/troops-in-a-123-countries is best left to non-democratic states.
> Declanyou know Declan, the problems on the poli board re sensitivies would be overcome a lot if everyone cooled down and realised it's basically a misrepresentation of a person him(her)self to think the just because one is anti "bad policies" or disagrees or even condemns the policies of a govt that you are anti- anyone or any country or even anti the govt of that country.. just some of its policies! If it changed its policies we wouldnt be anti them:-)Its not them , only their policies!
So I think its hurtful(and a snub) that people do feel offended and even say walk out of the room if they were really there.. instead of attempting to see anothers point of view.It's like say someone is attempting to say .. but I find find this may be the wrong way to go about things, it's not working.. look at what is happening! hear this side pls.. and the other person not only snubs them.. but refuses to listen..and reports them. Says they are offended as they disagree with their ideas? Bit like being dobbed in and then thrown in prison for ones' ideas without any trial maybe?
Of course I do expect people to present their thoughts with as little upset and anger as possible, and not to openly attack! But they is a need for discussion on all sides to try to reach an understanding, not necessarily an agreement at least at first.It's just that same thing that causes the terrorism and "flare-ups" as happened in Solomon's recently.. that feeling you are beiing disenfranchised.. not represented.. your values are not being listened to. Democracy in itself unfortunately is taken to be govt by majority.. and this mixing of cultures as has happened in the last 60 or so years especially means that an lot are left voiceless and powerless.. their culture, values, lifestyle, land, beliefs maybe disappearing to be taken over by I guess capitalism/ownersship-control by other countries/cultures.. those with the money to power the voice(even from differing countries).. and suprisingly a lot don't like it.. but have no power to do anything but revolt/ lash out...
It's the concept that democracy is NOT right if its not implemented to allow all to have a voice..
Oh well going now.. its not the politics board:-)
but the same concepts do apply to letting everyone have a voice whether or not they are in the majority on babble politics too!
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