Posted by SLS on August 21, 2021, at 8:36:43
In reply to Re: Nortriptyline dosing., posted by undopaminergic on August 21, 2021, at 2:11:51
Hi, UD.
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> > Now, I respond extremely well to lithium, which blocks noradrenaline.
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> I'm not aware of such an effect. Maybe you mean glutamate?
Read my post to Jay regarding lithium and its bimodal effects on glutamate activity.
> > I tried nortriptyline (Aventyl) a few times, and I eventually had a few psychotic, manic episodes. See, there is a type of mania called dysphoric mania, which is like taking a boiling hot shower just after falling onto a thousand razorblades. Most people think mania is some euphoric spending spree, having sex with strangers, type of thing.
> For me it was euphoria and spending sprees. So, at least in some respects, I've been lucky.
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> > I think you likely know what I am getting at. The noradrenaline is a huge factor in mania...
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> For me, it felt a lot more like dopamine.
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> -undopaminergic
I can't really offer any comments regarding your experiences and conclusions. I just don't know enough about it. One of my *older* doctors said that he knows of no effective antidepressant that hasn't precipitated a manic reaction in at least some people. I found that even Wellbutrin, once thought to be immune from producing mania, does indeed trigger it.Ugly stuff, even if it feels like a better high than cocaine. One episode of mania can ruin a life in days that had taken decades to build. The aftermath of a psychotic mania includes embarrassment, being forever remembered as a mentally imbalanced and potentially dangerous mental patient, being ostracized and abandoned by almost everyone, self-inflicted poverty, the loss of respect by friends who become the target of personal insults and rage, etc. Years of depression really doesn't do this - with the exception of poverty.
I know from experience.
- ScottSome see things as they are and ask why.
I dream of things that never were and ask why not.The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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