Posted by undopaminergic on May 28, 2008, at 6:01:16
In reply to Re: hydrocodone or tramadol for depression, posted by NewHampshireGuy on May 22, 2008, at 10:02:08
> It is very unfortunate that opiates have such addictive properties and you build a tolerance to them so easily, because YES they very much cut right through depression
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> I know if I take a Vicodin here or there after my gf has had a surgery, I am in instant heaven and all thoughts and feelings of depression are gone
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> sure it's because of the high, but I would much rather be "high" the rest of my life then to in a deep depression (which I only believe opiates should be used for, deep untreatable depression)
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> too bad modern science hasn't developed an syntetic opiate like Vicodin that doesn't build tolerance or cause addictivness
>Buprenorphine may be less prone to cause rapid tolerance and addiction than Vicodin and some other opiates.
Memantine and dextromethorphan (DXM) may also be useful to control tolerance, at least as far as the analgesic effects are concerned. See:
http://www.drgeorgedavidson.com/ebixa_memantine_experience.htm
and: http://www.drgeorgedavidson.com/ebixa_getting_off_methadone.htm
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