Posted by Jiggitykid on September 25, 2004, at 19:42:16
In reply to Re: Effexor -tapering Q » kananee, posted by Dave001 on September 25, 2004, at 17:40:23
No one has brought up stock prices. It was mentioned, first by me, because you seem so ready to defend the drug. Also, how do you know that those who experience this awful withdrawal are indeed, a minority? Do you have proof of that? Do you have proof that the majority of people who take it have no problems? Or perhaps, could it be that most folks think they have a month-long flu or are having heart or neurological problems, like so many of us were told by physicians, until we came here and connected the dots? What makes people who have struggled or are struggling through this so angry and hurt (and unless you have been there, you CANNOT know or even begin to sympathize) is the patronizing tone of the posts, whether intended or not. Perhaps you truly are here to show both sides of the issue, but the feeling those of us who have been to hell and back get is that you are saying, "Hush now, your experience isn't all that important, so shut up."
Odds are you are a very nice person and are not intending to express this, but this is exactly how it is coming across. Your posts make it sound as if those of us who are trying to 1)heal, 2)share experiences and 3) help others through this horrible withdrawal are nothing but big babies who won't take responsibility for our lives. Sir, that is so far from the truth. Needing treatment for depression can be a touchy subject because of the social stigma of any kind of mental illness, but to have someone come in and imply that we are hot-headed, immature whiners who blame others for our problems is nothing short of spitting in our faces. Can you see why your posts stir up so much anger?
Because of my personal experience and my desire that no one else suffer the way I did, of course I'd like to see the drug at the bottom of the ocean. But practically, I do realize that for some, and in my mind a MINORITY, it does work, and taking it off the market isn't the right idea. What I want, and what the petition says, is for the drug company to reveal the information about the addictive properties of the drug and the withdrawal that it can/does cause. Funny how asking for a corporation to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for something that it does/produces seems to illicit a response that we are not taking responsibility for our lives.
Would we be here, sharing information and supporting each other, if we weren't responsible? Would we be trying to encourage others to get well and sharing how we are healing if we weren't responsible? You know nothing about our lives, and to imply what your original post in response to the class-action post did (which was more than imply, you stated) is insulting. You requested immunity for those who answered your questions about your post; I can only hope that applies to me. You asked for the truth - you have it.
> > Hmmmmm.....I wanted to ask the same question. Why one might think Dave has a connection with Wyeth seems reasonable given the content and tone of his first two posts. I guess I'm also wondering -- given Dave's point of view and the amazing statement that he had no withdrawal symptoms -- why he would post on a board that's all about Effexor's horrible withdrawal symptoms
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> 1.) Look at my posting history.
> 2.) There is no correlation between Wyeth stock prices and Effexor posts at dr-bob.org.
> 3.) It would be the world's most inefficient marketing strategy.
> 4.) Law of the vocal minority, and absent majority dictates that those whom experience unusually bad side-effects or withdrawal from Effexor are most likely to complain about unusually bad side-effects or withdrawal from Effexor than those who did not experience adverse effects -- at least not to nearly the same magnitude. This isn't a new phenomenon; just look at the number of anti [insert drug name/class] web sites. You have your "Prozac survivors," your anti-benzo, anti-stimulant, anti-Effexor, and anti-GHB groups; the list goes on an on... Extrapolating statistics from only one cohort does not produce objective results.
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