Posted by colin wallace on May 14, 2003, at 10:31:17
In reply to Meds for Anger and ARD (Anal Retentive Disorder)? » colin wallace, posted by Ron Hill on May 13, 2003, at 10:44:46
Signor Ronaldo>,
>>Wellbutrin made me very irritable (GRRRRRRRRRR!) when I tried it several years ago. Based on what I know about you, I wonder if it might do the same to you.
Yeah Ron, I've got a healthy wary feeling for this one too-there doesn't seem to be any 'in-between' reaction with this med. does there??Explosive or great!!
> My wife thinks that I should try this option(valproate) but I think I'll try Neurontin first.Makes sense.As you say, if your sudden sparks of fury are soley due to anger, not depression or (in)stability, you'll soon find out!If it works, no need to look any further.
> Yeah, but the question remains whether my low dosage of Enada NADH can overcome Prozac's adverse dopaminergic effects. If not, the SSRI will turn me back into "do-nothing-boy".
Quandry for us both.I also intend trying out an ENADA add-on, once I'm fully used to the Prozac.In theory at least, it should prove beneficial.I'm Hoping it will help me with my inattention and coordination difficulties, and boost motivation too.If not, it's on to the noradrenergic/dopaminergic meds...
>Here's my questin for you you Colin regarding Neurontin. Will the “very relaxing” quality help control my irritability (flash rage), or is it just an anti-anxiety effect?Well, I must say that it didn't have anywhere near as much impact on anxiety as it did for irritability, in my case.But it's nothing like a benzo(you wouldn't really call a benzo 'uplifting).Then again, my anxiety issues all but disappeared with Lamictal,so it's hard to say for sure. Neurontin definitely reduced my irritability, but I found it to be more of an all round 'tension' reliever, rather than something I'd use for an anger flare-up.
> Colin, please tell me what a benzo feels like when one takes it. For example, suppose (for the millionth time) my wife leaves her used breakfast dish sitting dirty on the counter instead of rinsing it out so that I can put it directly into the dishwasher without first having to use a hammer and chisel to remove the crusted remains. Further, let’s say this causes me to blow-up (for the millionth time). If I were to take a short-acting benzo PRN when I first start to get angry, would it help me to control my temper? Also, will I experience any type of rebound-effect after the short-acting benzo starts to wear off, whereby, I become irritable from the mini-withdrawal effects?Hey,Maybe you should get your wife to create a crockery sculpture??
But benzo's am morgen for irritability??Yup, that's something I've kept up, for just that reason.I'm at my worst in the morning, just like you.I don't what to get into the endless and dreary pro/anti benzo debate, but a small dose of a long-lasting(diazepam) benzo first thing makes my mornings pass a lot smoother!.A mild benzo. used to check my SAM-E induced anger too(but what's the point of taking anything that makes us angry eh?)
I wouldn't go for a short acting benzo.though.
They tend to be stronger(xanax etc.)and this may be overkill , unless you're going berserk!!
These 'acute' benzo's do come in tiny doses, and whilst this may be fine for occasional, sporadic angry outbursts,a milder one with a long half-life would be more settling and even throughout the day.(diazepam has the longest half-life,so withdrawing is a bit like stopping fluoxetine- much easier than the others!)
As for what a benzo feels like,the responses are again individual(some feel groggy, others like myself don't)they tend to be neutral in terms of mood effect, but you will notice an instant, very noticable, highly effective calming effect for sure.Much more so than Neurontin, although if you like Neurontin and still get a touch of anger, you could integrate the two if you wanted.
Then of coure there's our friend Valproate again...
Anyway, hope this helps-I can't reply for a couple of weeks 'cos I'm off down to the (muddy brown,murky, rainy)UK coast for a break.Seeya soon,
Col.
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