Posted by Ritch on May 11, 2003, at 10:59:00
In reply to Re: stimulant psychosis, posted by cybercafe on May 11, 2003, at 3:54:31
> > Cyber, It just seems like you are being treated with a stimulant to offset the negative effects of an AP. Ultimately, stimulants weren't
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> Nope - I am taking stimulants so I will be able to concentrate, and my doc says stims would make me psychotic without an AP
Oops! Ok, I understand you now.
> > > btw... outside of the intolerable side effects of AP, were you able to achieve a decent degree of mood stability and concentration???Only on the Risperdal/Neurontin/Adderall combo. Seroquel was just too sedative, period. The Risperdal I could take the night before at bedtime (1/2mg), and I would just be a *little* foggy-headed when I woke up, but would feel fairly clear after my Adderall dosage the next day.
> oh so you were taking stims not for concentration but for antidepressant effects?
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> but how was your concentration at the time (you do suffer from ADD right?)?
>I'm really beginning to believe that my "ADD" symptoms really are the primary symptoms of bipolar depression. Perhaps a "limbic ADD" of sorts. IOW, the stims are creating a dramatic positive improvement in my concentration probs., because they are creating a dramatic improvement in my bipolar depressive symptoms-of which poor concentration and mental slowing are the primary symptoms. I'm not taking any stims or ADD meds, now and I'm not having much trouble at all-I'm also not in the seasonal depressive phase of my cycling either.
> >Maybe Straterra or Provigil?
> hmmm... i have no reason to believe as yet that straterra or provigil would work better for concentration than ritalin
> i think too much norepenephrine is what causes us bipolars to cycle and provigil i thought was useful for wakefulness but not concentration? ....
> i don't think thye would hit D4 like ritalin would hit D4
I think it is interesting they are studying Provigil for use in bipolar depression. From, what I understand it has little effect on NE, but DA instead. For me wakefulness=concentration.
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