Posted by disney4 on May 3, 2003, at 9:55:17
In reply to Re: Serotonin receptors may be damaged-help, posted by stjames on May 3, 2003, at 0:48:05
> > I think you were the only one to see what I was getting at with the Serotonin boosters.
>
> If you boost Serotonin you are risking SS again. You might want to read a bit about SS before you start adding stuff. Lots
> of things to avoid. Given that SS effects the autonomic nervious system, don't play around. An autonomic system crisis can be deadly. No BP or tempature regulation, for starters, muscle rigidity, ect.
>
> Everything I read on SS says avoid all Serotonin
> agents and things that effect it, like DMX,
> or risk relapse.
>
> Seems you want to head in to other direction.
>
> Till the blood/brain barrier can be passed and 5HT get to the cleft supplements for 5HT precusrsors are so much qwack. Unfortunatally
> 5HT will build up in blood and can be quite bad.
>
> Also, no one seem to mention the feed back loop
> that means you pee off excess precursors, the amino acids being the one that comes to mind.
> You pee them off for good reason, having too many
> is not a good thing.
>
> If there is damage, ramming what you are missing
> into the body is not going to work on a system this complex. At least until we can describe the entire system, completely. There is not proof
> Serotonin site damage means the treatment is more
> Serotonin. Ramming huge amounts (keep in mind
> the body uses milla and nano levels of neurotransmitters) begs the question, how will it be regulated & given the one NT level effects
> all others, how do you know how much to take ?
> Remember, we don;t really know how much of each
> NT a normal person should have, at least not in the sence we do know how much thyroid to give and can measure thyroid against norms at ml and nl levels.
>
> Also, the neurotransmitter deficency model of
> mental illness was cast aside a decade ago.
> It does not work. That is not to say NT's have nothing to do with mental illness.
>
> disney4, I too got your post. I know quite a bit
> about SS, as I take 450 mgs of Effexor and 30 mgs
> Remeron. I have to know about SS as very high doses of 5HT effecting AD's (Effexor is the higest)are the major cause of SS. Based on what I know, I saw you were thinmking for doing something dangerous. Given that you had SS in the past, I felt I had to warn you. Sorry you did not want to hear that.****************************
I was referring to the toast and jam when I asked if that could help. When I was thanking Caleb, I knew he had read the whole post before replying. If you see the second paragraph of my post, it refers to the fact that 5 HTP supplementation is not proven to be safe. I think I am okay with the toast and jam. Thanks for your concern, and I hear you loud and clear.
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Bedtime Snacks: a Great Alternative to Sleeping PillsA high-carbohydrate snack, such as crackers and fruit or toast and jam, triggers the release of a brain chemical called serotonin, which aids sleep. And although the traditional glass of warm milk, a protein-rich beverage, probably doesn't affect serotonin levels, the warm liquid soothes and relaxes you and makes you feel full, which might help facilitate sleep.
A new product on the market called 5-Hydroxy-L-tryptophan, or 5-HTP, is touted as a building block for serotonin, which is a mood elevator, brain stimulant, and sleep enhancer. However, since its safety is questionable and no optimal dose has been established, you're better off raising serotonin levels naturally with high-carbohydrate snacks.
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