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Posted by susan47 on August 19, 2006, at 13:08:48
up, all choked up, gasping for breath, because I can't keep doing this at this pace without something to hang onto, somebody or something some faith some belief some proof that this is Right, this is the Only Thing ...
because I hate what he does, so much.
He completely cuts me out.
As though I were a piece of paper.
Snip, snip .. snip.
Posted by Joan797 on August 19, 2006, at 14:28:38
In reply to Choked, posted by susan47 on August 19, 2006, at 13:08:48
Who?
Posted by susan47 on August 20, 2006, at 1:15:51
In reply to Choked, posted by susan47 on August 19, 2006, at 13:08:48
You know, as though I were chaff in the lives of my children. Like that. Cutting me out, snip-snip-snip. Although today he softened. I was lucky. I was fortunate, today.
Today, he was kind. In his way. But he's still a traitor. Perhaps one day before he dies he will be different. Maybe. Perhaps he'll learn kindness, compassion and love. Love, most of all.
Posted by Toph on August 20, 2006, at 11:39:26
In reply to Choked, posted by susan47 on August 19, 2006, at 13:08:48
The worst form of warfare, the most inhumane, the most likely to teach mistrust and contempt from generation to generation, CHILDREN - whether as a shield or as a weapon, there are effective tools in warfare. But used to fend off harm or to inflict harm, these impliments of war are ultimately harmed beyond repair. You and your husband must agree stop this form of battle now Susan.
Posted by susan47 on August 20, 2006, at 14:08:27
In reply to Re: Choked » susan47, posted by Toph on August 20, 2006, at 11:39:26
> The worst form of warfare, the most inhumane, the most likely to teach mistrust and contempt from generation to generation, CHILDREN - whether as a shield or as a weapon, there are effective tools in warfare. But used to fend off harm or to inflict harm, these impliments of war are ultimately harmed beyond repair. You and your husband must agree stop this form of battle now Susan.
Listen Toph, I am not using my children as a form of battle. Why do you think I understand that he needs to learn Love? Do you think I need to learn it? Do you think pain didn't teach me love?
You're reading into things what isn't there. My children cannot be used. Do you have any idea how emotionally smart they are? My daughter would never allow it. Although she's in denial about herself, she won't always be. Like I was in denial. Here, Toph, operative word .. WAS. Do you get it? I'm trying to teach their father to love me the way I love him, which is with my children, in a circle, INCLUDING everyone in his life who wants to be trustful and trustworthy and LOVING.
Nothing hurts children like a lack of Love. Everywhere. In everyone around them.
Posted by Toph on August 20, 2006, at 20:39:42
In reply to Joan, the ex-DH, ex-DH, posted by susan47 on August 20, 2006, at 1:15:51
> You know, as though I were chaff in the lives of my children. Like that. Cutting me out, snip-snip-snip. Although today he softened...
Susan, I misunderstood or projected my marital warfare into your post. I'm sorry.
Posted by susan47 on August 23, 2006, at 0:41:56
In reply to Re: Joan, the ex-DH, ex-DH » susan47, posted by Toph on August 20, 2006, at 20:39:42
Me too.
Posted by Declan on August 24, 2006, at 3:14:39
In reply to Re: Choked:Toph, posted by susan47 on August 20, 2006, at 14:08:27
Love can't be taught.
Like all the important things (including money) it is beyond our control.
Posted by Joan797 on August 24, 2006, at 19:10:49
In reply to Joan, the ex-DH, ex-DH, posted by susan47 on August 20, 2006, at 1:15:51
It doesn't matter if the cutting out part is physical or emotional or whatever. It's still cutting out.
I was cut out for the 9 months I took care of my dying father.
It was very hurtful for them to just simply go on with their merry little lives eating out, going to the movies, etc every weekend.....and bond with their father more than ever. But we don't want to deal with the fact that all of this cost money. Money that could have been saved for essentials since I was unemployed during my nursemaid job. Not to worry, I'm back to a menial job now so I can take care of that once again.
I am back now, with no "title" to my name.
Except cook, cleaning lady, landlord, and esentially anything else that required me to work my *ss off and pay for everything they want.
That way, they can go to their father for "fun money" and a ride to the movies.
It's so different here now.
Not sure we will ever get back to a family that I can be proud of, etc.
God, I am sooooooooooooo bitter.
Hateful and bitter.
Never going to get into heaven that way.
Posted by susan47 on September 6, 2006, at 0:42:15
In reply to Re: Joan, the ex-DH, ex-DH, posted by Joan797 on August 24, 2006, at 19:10:49
Yes, it is, being cut out hurts like hell. It makes me feel mean, and empty, and hateful. Full of hate for my ex-DH, for the many, many ways in which he hurts me and my children. And won't see it. And no, you can't teach anyone to love. Love has to be willing. And the fact is, I can't love him either. Not anymore, not after the way he treats my children. Not after I see the truth of the way I've been manipulated and played for a fool for so many years. Oh, Joan. Oh, God. I don't know. I've been used and abused and I hate myself for it, and I hate him and the whole damn world for allowing this to happen. For being without love. Without caring, or compassion, or kindness, or time, or laughter.
Don't worry, Joan, heaven doesn't exist anyway.
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