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Posted by cockeyed on May 11, 2005, at 0:22:45
RAGE
Ah, such a perfect light
brighter than the darkest night
All the gods smile upon you
and it's all so simple
such a gorgeous view
So go on and hit her
go upside her head
Then she'll learn your strength
All weakness, dead.
But some small voice deep inside
Says that it's you who's gone and died
And all the bright light is just a lie
And so you let your chance slip on by
But not to worry
The RAGE and it's brightness will come again.
maybe then...
maybe then.
Posted by sunny10 on May 11, 2005, at 10:05:23
In reply to anger management, posted by cockeyed on May 11, 2005, at 0:22:45
isn't there another way to feel the adrenaline rush without hurting others?
(not an accusation, here, just the wailing cry of a victim is all...)
Posted by cockeyed on May 11, 2005, at 12:50:52
In reply to Re: anger management » cockeyed, posted by sunny10 on May 11, 2005, at 10:05:23
> isn't there another way to feel the adrenaline rush without hurting others?
>
> (not an accusation, here, just the wailing cry of a victim is all...)sunny, thanks. That is the horror of rage. It seems so right and it is such a terror. If there is a satan he's right there shining that insane light. That's my problem...there is a better way but I get lost. Blinded by that light. I'd do better to wail myself but it seems so easy to attack another. And that's why I'm glad I found this site. Thanks so much. You don't know how much your response has affected me. cockeyed
Posted by sunny10 on May 11, 2005, at 13:32:42
In reply to Re: anger management » sunny10, posted by cockeyed on May 11, 2005, at 12:50:52
maybe bungee jumping or something like it could replace the rage high with a different type of adrenaline high???
I don't think anyone wants to take away from any happiness that you feel; just maybe alter the means to the end?
I'm really glad that you didn't take my post the wrong way... we are all at babble to try to help and support each other.
most respectfully,
sunny10
Posted by Damos on May 16, 2005, at 17:36:05
In reply to anger management, posted by cockeyed on May 11, 2005, at 0:22:45
Hey cockeyed musta missed this one.
Just a small thing. When you post something that might trigger off stuff in others please just stick *TRIGGER* in the subject line too. That way others know there's something that might set them off in the post. I learned this the hard way with one of my first posts which hit some raw nerves with some people I've really grow to care about. Most will still choose to read it but at least they won't get as blindsided by certain images or feelings. I only say that here because quite a few of our fellow posters have been on the receiving end of violence of one sort or another.
You write well and we're glad you're here speaking your mind. Please don't self censor, just be mindfull of others life experience and how they might be effected.
I have to be honest and say I've never experienced rage as you describe it and outside a pit of push-and-shove as a kid and on the sporting field never struck anyone. Don't know what to say or suggest as one of the images here made me pretty uncomforatable. There has to be a better way to express and deal with your anger than stiking someone else - there has to be. Hope you find a way.
Posted by Tamar on May 17, 2005, at 8:54:03
In reply to anger management, posted by cockeyed on May 11, 2005, at 0:22:45
Your poem is very powerful. For me, like others who responded, it was something of a trigger, though I thought it really captured the ambivalence of rage.
Tamar
Posted by cockeyed on May 20, 2005, at 0:13:39
In reply to Re: anger management » cockeyed, posted by Damos on May 16, 2005, at 17:36:05
> Hey cockeyed musta missed this one.
>
> Just a small thing. When you post something that might trigger off stuff in others please just stick *TRIGGER* in the subject line too. That way others know there's something that might set them off in the post. I learned this the hard way with one of my first posts which hit some raw nerves with some people I've really grow to care about. Most will still choose to read it but at least they won't get as blindsided by certain images or feelings. I only say that here because quite a few of our fellow posters have been on the receiving end of violence of one sort or another.
>
> You write well and we're glad you're here speaking your mind. Please don't self censor, just be mindfull of others life experience and how they might be effected.
>
> I have to be honest and say I've never experienced rage as you describe it and outside a pit of push-and-shove as a kid and on the sporting field never struck anyone. Don't know what to say or suggest as one of the images here made me pretty uncomforatable. There has to be a better way to express and deal with your anger than stiking someone else - there has to be. Hope you find a way.Damos, thanks. And I thought "trigger" was a horse. But I'm not really joking. Your suggestion is very much appreciated because I seem to go through life unaware of how I effect other people. Cockeyed.
Posted by cockeyed on May 20, 2005, at 0:23:57
In reply to Re: anger management » cockeyed, posted by Tamar on May 17, 2005, at 8:54:03
Tamar, I don't quite know how to do this response thing. Just sent a response to Damos who clued me in on triggers. I was trying to write about ambivalence so thanks. But I'm not trying to trigger anything. Frankly, that worries me because I'm not used to this sort of writing. I thought it was supposed to be creative-for me, that means cathartic. I catarticised some physical pain I was in tonite by going out and slamming tennis balls. It worked. But writing seems to lead me down endless corridors full of flights of ideas. And I just have a tendency to "go" The greeks talked about the frenzy of the muse. If it weren't so late I'd google or Jeeves that subject. Maybe tomorrow. Thanks, cockeyed.
Posted by sunny10 on May 20, 2005, at 14:09:53
In reply to Re: anger management, posted by cockeyed on May 20, 2005, at 0:23:57
What I've seen occur here on Writing is this...
new people write things. And the people who have been here for a while don't really "know your voice" yet, so they question what you mean.As a newcomer, feels like you are being asked to "defend" your work(because if you're at all like me, "answering to" or explaining my writing always make me feel a bit defensive).
But the "oldtimers" aren't really trying to put a stop to the cathartic energy of your writing. Most of us are just trying to get a feel for your "tone of voice", so we can understand you and support you better. And also trying to protect each other by making suggestions about how to protect others while writing for yourself. A trigger warning simply lets you write what you need to write. If I am feeling particularly vulnerable, I will probably not read those labelled as possible trigger just then to protect myself. It protects both of us. Your right to get it off your chest, and mine to not hurt myself.
BY NO MEANS should you stop the cathartic writing...
Keep plugging away- 'cause eventually most of us will know what you mean and what tone of voice you're utilizing for each particular piece... and if we aren't sure, we'll ask...
Be you- that's what Babble is for!
Posted by cockeyed on June 4, 2005, at 0:19:44
In reply to Re: anger management, posted by sunny10 on May 20, 2005, at 14:09:53
> What I've seen occur here on Writing is this...
> new people write things. And the people who have been here for a while don't really "know your voice" yet, so they question what you mean.
>
> As a newcomer, feels like you are being asked to "defend" your work(because if you're at all like me, "answering to" or explaining my writing always make me feel a bit defensive).
>
> But the "oldtimers" aren't really trying to put a stop to the cathartic energy of your writing. Most of us are just trying to get a feel for your "tone of voice", so we can understand you and support you better. And also trying to protect each other by making suggestions about how to protect others while writing for yourself. A trigger warning simply lets you write what you need to write. If I am feeling particularly vulnerable, I will probably not read those labelled as possible trigger just then to protect myself. It protects both of us. Your right to get it off your chest, and mine to not hurt myself.
>
> BY NO MEANS should you stop the cathartic writing...
>
> Keep plugging away- 'cause eventually most of us will know what you mean and what tone of voice you're utilizing for each particular piece... and if we aren't sure, we'll ask...
>
> Be you- that's what Babble is for!Sunny, thanks. I was writing to purge a madness that almost overcame me 14 years ago after my stepson had died of aids. I was on meds and straight vodka. I had the sure and certain light that ultra-violence was perfectly sensible and acceptable as a response to an attack on me that was physical and unexpected. There is a part of me that can deal with the pure light of reason especially if I'm stoned...the usual mantra of criminal behavior...hey, I can get over. Hey, this is so cool. But the reason is really rage, senseless except in the light of drugs...so I wrote this to remind myself. It seems so clear when one is impaired...sounds pompous, how's this? When you're f----d up. And I was and I hoppe I'll never be again. Not like that. The trouble is that there is a seduction which takes place. I was lucky because I was in a way beside myself and a voice of reason anchored me and kept me from something I do not want to imagine. Life is at times cruel enough so that somebody like me doesn't have to add to it. Sadly, it happens all too much. Thanks, cockeyed.
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