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Posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:39
Hello,
I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of dropping out of my degree. I wasn't cut out for this degree crap. I like to study things that I'm interested in but I hate being told what to learn. I find it VERY boring. I think I'm going to try to get a job as an assistant in a pharmacy. The wage will be bad but it's better that nothing.
I can't cope with the exams. I haven't done any work at all today. I try to sit down........ two minutes later I get up and put some music on. I'd continue the course if I thought I could pass the exams.... but I can't. I'll be sad to leave.
Ed xxxx
Posted by ixus on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:39
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
> Hello,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of dropping out of my degree. I wasn't cut out for this degree crap. I like to study things that I'm interested in but I hate being told what to learn. I find it VERY boring. I think I'm going to try to get a job as an assistant in a pharmacy. The wage will be bad but it's better that nothing.
>
> I can't cope with the exams. I haven't done any work at all today. I try to sit down........ two minutes later I get up and put some music on. I'd continue the course if I thought I could pass the exams.... but I can't. I'll be sad to leave.
>
> Ed xxxxHi Ed,
please don't give up! Take a break, you can always do this if you have health problems. But don't drop your study. If I can help you in some way, just let me know.
/ixus
Posted by lexyr on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:39
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
hey man...we all have to deal with "things" in life. i don't write a lot here, but i do read. you seem very intune, and interested in your studies. i agree with the last post, slow down a bit (i know easier said thandone). you are lucky you even have the option of doing what you want. me- i'm just stuck here, in a life i never wanted, family (love my kids, not the husband)that cannot be abandoned. trust me if i could, i would like a change...slow down a bit. so maybe you should try adjusting your schedule.
peace
Posted by linkadge on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:39
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends........., posted by lexyr on May 15, 2005, at 14:27:42
I know how you feel. University is absolutely terrable these days. Absolutely terrrable.
Its a forced rat swim test. Nootropics.com calls modern exam testing proceedures "institutionalized child abuse".
I always leave the year dumber than when I went in cause the chronic stress surely shrinks the hippocampus.
I am in the same boat. I am a fairy smart person
who is left nothing less than mutalated after exams. I havn't found a drug yet than can prevent the utter hoplessness I feel after exam times. The feeling of being raped, and then *paying* to have it done again. The bleakness and the fear is deep wired in my brain. Surely my amygdala has been fully kindled since the resolution to prevent that kind of hoplessness always fails irrespective of the effort I put into it.Throughout the school year I constantly think about dropping out, or killing myself, or both.
The system needs drastic changes or the steadily climing number of prozac prescriptions to university students ain't going to level out.
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:39
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends........., posted by lexyr on May 15, 2005, at 14:27:42
Hello,
>i'm just stuck here, in a life i never wanted....
I'm sorry to hear that. It's always bad when your choices are limited.
Regards,
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:39
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends........., posted by linkadge on May 15, 2005, at 15:15:49
Hi Link,
I'm sorry to hear that University is so bad. Do you think you're studying the right subject?
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by The Resistance on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:39
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends......... » linkadge, posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 15:27:07
Hey Ed
Putting this simply there is something very important for you to consider!
Are you finding your degree boring because its boring? Or are you finding it boring because you can't concentrate?
I thought I didn't like the philosophy component of my degree because it was boring.
Ignorent GPs reinforced this, they said "you can't concentrate because its boring".Finally I had the good sense to see Dr Cosgrove, he gave me Dexedrine, Hay Presto I could concentrate, I had motivation, I found the philosophy really interesting!
I think rather than completely dropping your degree you should take some time out and get an ADHD diagnosis, and some stimulant medication.
I'm angry about this, your a very intelligent person, you shouldn't be in this position
Posted by Ritch on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:39
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
I'd hang in there if possible, but it you are really miserable with the curriculum then maybe it would be a good idea "stop out" for a semester or two and then possibly finish later. I dropped out of college four times before I got a degree for VERY similar reasons. I couldn't make up my mind what I wanted to do.. my interests would change weekly. I hate having to sit through lectures and take notes on subjects that you don't care about or WORSE professors you can't stand!
Posted by 4WD on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
> Hello,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of dropping out of my degree. I wasn't cut out for this degree crap. I like to study things that I'm interested in but I hate being told what to learn. I find it VERY boring. I think I'm going to try to get a job as an assistant in a pharmacy. The wage will be bad but it's better that nothing.
>
> I can't cope with the exams. I haven't done any work at all today. I try to sit down........ two minutes later I get up and put some music on. I'd continue the course if I thought I could pass the exams.... but I can't. I'll be sad to leave.
>
> Ed xxxxEd,
Is the problem the degree program or is it your current state of mind? I mean if you weren't dealing with depression symptoms already, would you be able to cope with school? If you think you'd be bored and uninterested with it even if you weren't struggling with depression then by all means, do something else. OTOH, if it is from depression, then there's still not much you can do to change how you feel about it.
Sorry for your dilemma.
Marsha
Posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends........., posted by The Resistance on May 15, 2005, at 15:56:33
Hiya!
>Are you finding your degree boring because its boring? Or are you finding it boring because you can't concentrate?
BOTH!
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends........., posted by Ritch on May 15, 2005, at 16:14:49
Hi Mitch,
>I hate having to sit through lectures and take notes on subjects that you don't care about.......
Me too, I can't wait to get out of lectures. University just doesn't agree with me, I'm too lazy!
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends......... » ed_uk, posted by 4WD on May 15, 2005, at 16:39:57
Hi!
>Is the problem the degree program or is it your current state of mind?
Probably a bit of both. I'd prefer to continue the course if things were going well but I've got exams soon and I'm gonna fail.
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by KaraS on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
Hi Ed,
Is there any way that you could take a break as others have mentioned here but still keep the option of going back to school at a later date?
I don't think that you can fully evaluate what you want now because of your depression. That has to be treated first before you can decide on your career path. If you don't have any motivation, you can't succeed - no matter how smart you are or how right the field is for you. If you are sleeping 16 hours a day, there's no way you can handle a demanding scholastic program. Please try not to be so hard on yourself. This isn't your fault! You are not lazy nor do you have a weak character!!!! You are suffering from depression. This can be treated but you might have to make some bold moves in order to get adequate treatment. Please don't waste your life away because getting adequate treatment is so hard in the UK. I have lost many years to this illness. Don't let it happen to you!
I hope that your doctor's appointment goes well tomorrow. Please keep us posted on what happens.
xxxooo
Kara
Posted by rainbowbrite on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends......... » 4WD, posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 17:29:50
Hi Ed,
Can you speak to soemone at school? Or maybe you can get a defferal? I really think you should stick it out. I have been where you are and probably will be again and it is the worst feeling. But that is all it is, a feeling. It will pass, and as hard as it is to hear and believe school is waiting for you. And it waits a long time too :-). But the most important thing is your health so if you really dont feel well ask you doc or soemthing because I would hate to see you drop out of something you do so well in! And going through it alone is awful.
take care
rain
Posted by Minnie-Haha on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
> Hello,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of dropping out of my degree. I wasn't cut out for this degree crap. I like to study things that I'm interested in but I hate being told what to learn. I find it VERY boring. I think I'm going to try to get a job as an assistant in a pharmacy. The wage will be bad but it's better that nothing.
>
> I can't cope with the exams. I haven't done any work at all today. I try to sit down........ two minutes later I get up and put some music on. I'd continue the course if I thought I could pass the exams.... but I can't. I'll be sad to leave.
>
> Ed xxxxAre you like me? Struggle with that all or nothing thinking? Can't you just step off the track for a semester? Rest. Toward the end of getting my bachelor's I got so sick, and I had to drop back to two classes a semester to make it through. Even then I thought I wouldn't make it, but I did somehow. It seems like another lifetime now. I thought I wouldn't make it, but I did. I KNEW I wouldn't make it if I kept taking four classes/semester. But I muddled through on two. (I also had to let go of trying to be a straight-A student.)
Posted by Maxime on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
Ed
You've come this far, you should keep pushing. Yeah exams suck, but you can't let stop you from doing what you want to do.
Now if you said you were no longer interested in this area, then that would be a different story.
Make yourself a schedule at the beginning of each day of the areas you are going to cover. Schedule in breaks as well. Then follow the schedule. This is what you have to do in the real world when you have a job. Try it, it will help. Also, do you have any friends you can study with? That can help a lot. Study groups can be really helpful.
Keep going and don't give up!
Hugs,
Maxime
> Hello,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of dropping out of my degree. I wasn't cut out for this degree crap. I like to study things that I'm interested in but I hate being told what to learn. I find it VERY boring. I think I'm going to try to get a job as an assistant in a pharmacy. The wage will be bad but it's better that nothing.
>
> I can't cope with the exams. I haven't done any work at all today. I try to sit down........ two minutes later I get up and put some music on. I'd continue the course if I thought I could pass the exams.... but I can't. I'll be sad to leave.
>
> Ed xxxx
Posted by SLS on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
Hint:
Turn off the damned computer!
Live.
- Scott
Posted by stresser on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:40
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends......... » ed_uk, posted by KaraS on May 15, 2005, at 18:47:54
Ed,
Please don't make any hasty discisions about dropping out. I can tell from your posts that you are very knowledgable and will be very successful in this field. Taking it slower isn't a bad thing, and many people do that. My husband took his Engineering slower, and went on to get his Masters at a later date. (after we had our daughter) He now has a prominant position with a World Wide Company and it didn't matter a #*&^%^^ that he took more time getting there. Treat your depression, and realize that one of the guys sitting next to you probably has the same problems you have. You would be amazed. I really wish you could read your posts with our perspective. I was stunned and saddend to hear of your thinking about this, and hope you don't totally give up. Take your time. Get the help and start back when you're ready.
I am trying to think of everything I can say right now to get you to look at this, the way were are looking at this. We have faith in you, we are here for you, just as you are here for us. Can you think about taking a break without giving up the entire program?
My thoughts are with you.
-L
Posted by Phillipa on May 15, 2005, at 21:48:41
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends........., posted by stresser on May 15, 2005, at 20:52:29
Hi Ed! I'm not suprised to hear you say this as we have talked about this many times before. I also know from talking to my pharmacist that they don't know anything about meds compared to you. I still say if not a pdoc, then maybe some type of therapist, or maybe get into research and develop the drugs that will make a difference in how people feel. I know you wish you could take a stimulant and I'm sorry the UK is so against them. I respect any decisions you make. After all it's your life and you deserve to be happy. Fondly, PJ O
Posted by Phillipa on May 15, 2005, at 22:40:41
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
I'm posting again to follow the thread. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by alienatari on May 16, 2005, at 6:03:37
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
Hey Ed, *hugs*. I hope things work out.
Im kinda in the same boat as you are at the moment :(Take care and whatever you decide I hope it makes you happy. Your a wonderful person and you help so many people.
Posted by Glydin on May 16, 2005, at 6:55:13
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
Hi Ed,
I'm going to go against the grain and say that there are times our insights are not borne out of a preceived handicap of our mental status. Sometimes, they are true and rational looks at what is right for us.
That being said, I'm not advocating for your stopping your studies or continuing with them. Only you can REALLY know the right path. I'm just saying that looking at the real reasons for your behavior and thoughts about your path of study is important.
You are very bright and talented and I trust you will make the right decision for you - no one else, you!!
Glydin
Posted by MidnightBlue on May 18, 2005, at 11:30:30
In reply to To my p-babble friends........., posted by ed_uk on May 15, 2005, at 13:55:55
Oh Ed!
You can't quit! My heart is breaking for you! You are so smart and helpful and kind. If you absolutely must, take a break and get yourself in better emotional, mental, and physical shape. Could you go to school somewhere else? Maybe even Canada or the States?
But don't give up! You are way too good at what you do to settle for a tech position.
Hugs,
MidnightBlue
Posted by rainbowbrite on May 28, 2005, at 14:35:08
In reply to Re: To my p-babble friends......... » ed_uk, posted by MidnightBlue on May 18, 2005, at 11:30:30
Im sorry if you already posted this elsewhere but ive been wondering how you are doing? did everything work out?
Hope soTake care
Rain
Posted by ed_uk on June 6, 2005, at 13:33:00
In reply to Hey Ed, posted by rainbowbrite on May 28, 2005, at 14:35:08
Hi Everyone!
Thank you for your kind posts :-)
I had my last exam today :-) I had 5 exams but I only did four of them. I'm resitting the one that I missed in August.Ed xxxxx
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