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Posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 10:32:17
In reply to Re: I need a miracle..... » gardenergirl, posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 8:21:07
Ok it is getting bad, any advice for failing or accepting failure? or am I the only one who experiences it like this, or who has ever failed?
Im sorry, you know, Im sick of hearing myself complain too. Just don't know what to do anymore...I guess my judgement is impaired...:-(
Posted by tkmphd on March 21, 2005, at 11:41:03
In reply to I wish it was as easy to joke about this IRL, posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 10:32:17
hey, maybe we should all swap homework! i could use a break from statistics. anybody like math? who's working on postmodernism?
as far as feeling far behind and stuck, i've been there. in fact, i think i am always there. i have gotten through a MA and 2 years of a phd being the most last minute, procrastination-ridden student i have ever known. i have, however, begun to realize that people who do things on time and by the book often lack creativity. i have dubbed all of my procrastination time as "processing" time. in all my years of school, i have learned to incorporate my oftentimes lazy, distracted, overwhelmed feelings into producing some pretty abstract and non-traditional approaches to my work.
i'm not sure what level you are at, but, at a lot of levels, professors are pretty understanding if you are honest. tell them that you are feeling overwhelmed and tell them that you need some time. i think you will be surprised to find out that some profs are reasonable and sympathetic.
it took me a long time to realize that professors oftentimes don't expect you to read every single thing that they assign. i had to be in my 7th year of post-secondary education to figure out that part of conquering this college thing is to figure out how to survive in college. it is not about making sure that you read every last page of every last assignment. it is figuring out how you best do your work and it will not be like everyone else. i personally have to sit around and watch about 10 episodes of the iron chef before i'll get an idea. that used to make me anxious, but now i kind of realize and accept it as part of my process.
if you can relax and not worry about the production of stuff, you may actually feel like doing some of the work. i would suggest talking to some of your profs and see if you can find one or two sympathetic ones. realize that you have to get through your courses, but it sounds like you are beating yourself up about not being able to get into the work when, with me at least, if i stop thinking about it, i'll usually want to start working on it.
am i making any sense or just talking in circles.
why don't we discuss some of our work on this site? what are some of the papers about that you are trying to write? i have a background in anthropology and sociology and all that theory crap. i may be able to help you throw around some ideas. sometimes talking/bitching about your work may spark some interest!
good luck.
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 12:30:48
In reply to Re: I wish it was as easy to joke about this IRL, posted by tkmphd on March 21, 2005, at 11:41:03
> hey, maybe we should all swap homework! i could use a break from statistics. anybody like math? who's working on postmodernism?
Id be up for that! But I would screw whoevers I did up.
> as far as feeling far behind and stuck, i've been there. in fact, i think i am always there. i have gotten through a MA and 2 years of a phd being the most last minute, procrastination-ridden student i have ever known. i have, however, begun to realize that people who do things on time and by the book often lack creativity. i have dubbed all of my procrastination time as "processing" time. in all my years of school, i have learned to incorporate my oftentimes lazy, distracted, overwhelmed feelings into producing some pretty abstract and non-traditional approaches to my work.
I know what you mean,and I think that is true of me as well sometimes only I am not nearly as productive. It goes in phases and right now I have no creativity, no motivation, my brain is not functionaing and I am in panic mode. But I also sense everyone here is smart adn is meant to be in school, I am starting to question myself.
> i'm not sure what level you are at, but, at a lot of levels, professors are pretty understanding if you are honest. tell them that you are feeling overwhelmed and tell them that you need some time. i think you will be surprised to find out that some profs are reasonable and sympathetic.
Im just finishing with undergrad, alothough it may never happen. What do I tell them? Just say I am overwhelmed? But then if they say..so what...what do I do?
> it took me a long time to realize that professors oftentimes don't expect you to read every single thing that they assign. i had to be in my 7th year of post-secondary education to figure out that part of conquering this college thing is to figure out how to survive in college. it is not about making sure that you read every last page of every last assignment. it is figuring out how you best do your work and it will not be like everyone else. i personally have to sit around and watch about 10 episodes of the iron chef before i'll get an idea. that used to make me anxious, but now i kind of realize and accept it as part of my process.
I have had that experience as well, it is very rare that I need to talk to them about this stuff, its just been so many times this term that I am scared Ive over-used it. thats funny about the iron chef! lol
> if you can relax and not worry about the production of stuff, you may actually feel like doing some of the work. i would suggest talking to some of your profs and see if you can find one or two sympathetic ones. realize that you have to get through your courses, but it sounds like you are beating yourself up about not being able to get into the work when, with me at least, if i stop thinking about it, i'll usually want to start working on it.
You are probably right about not thinking about it but I can't help it. i took something to calm down but I have been in tears about this all day. I don't even feel like Im making sense with what Im saying here...I have a huge pile of stuff in front of me and it is SCREAMING at me, I guess I could move it and take a small bit to look through (or stare at)
> am i making any sense or just talking in circles.
you are making WAY more sense than me LOL> why don't we discuss some of our work on this site? what are some of the papers about that you are trying to write? i have a background in anthropology and sociology and all that theory crap. i may be able to help you throw around some ideas. sometimes talking/bitching about your work may spark some interest!
Thanks! that would be awsome. Only I get kind of freaked out posting specific info about me, I slip up sometimes and then I worry about it. Id love to attempt to run it by you, that is if you could decipher what is coming out of my messed up head...can I babble mail you? Although it may be hopeless for me at this point. i really need to stop being so negative.> good luck.
thank you thank you! I am going to break down my pile...and see where it takes me.
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 12:59:09
In reply to Re: I wish it was as easy to joke about this IRL » tkmphd, posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 12:30:48
I just broke a mirror ... i think that was a sign for me to drop out :-(
Posted by tkmphd on March 21, 2005, at 13:08:27
In reply to Re: I wish it was as easy to joke about this IRL » tkmphd, posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 12:30:48
i have no idea what babble mail is. if you tell me about it, sure, you can babblemail me...
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 13:23:43
In reply to Re: I wish it was as easy to joke about this IRL, posted by tkmphd on March 21, 2005, at 13:08:27
https://dr-bob.securesites.com/cgi-bin/pb/signup.pl
i think this is the link...you go to it and update registration adn then click OK to accept babble mail. In case it doesn't work, my emial is xxx. Just so you know, If you send to my email directly though I can then see your email, but babblemail is set up so that the recipiant can not see it. then to send a babblemail you click the name of the person above the post, it should be highlighted blue for me, but it isn't for you, cuz you still need to do it through registration.Thanks tkmphd
Posted by gardenergirl on March 21, 2005, at 14:53:10
In reply to Re: I wish it was as easy to joke about this IRL » tkmphd, posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 13:23:43
FYI, rainbowbrite,
You do not have babblemail turned on for yourself, either. If you did, your screen name would show up as a link and would be clickable.Also, I forget, but do you have a T on campus? Can you get one if not? One of the things I do with my clients who are stuggling with exactly what you are describing is help them break down their tasks, see what they need to do, and contact their professors to see what accomodations can be made. Sometimes I will will write a short letter asking for an accomodation for the client, and it does help. It may result in an extended deadline or an incomplete. Anything that gives the student some breathing room. And it usually does not require that I disclose what I am seeing the client for.
Have you thought about that? Also, mental illness is also condidered a disability under the ADA. You can register with your school's disability office, and they can also direct you to any and all resources which may help you get through. Their mission is to help students get through school. So don't be shy or proud about it. Take what's there for help if you need it. And it's never too late.
Hang in there. You CAN do this.
gg
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 15:07:03
In reply to Re: I wish it was as easy to joke about this IRL » rainbowbrite, posted by gardenergirl on March 21, 2005, at 14:53:10
It is on, I have used it before?? I have recieved babblemail.
Maybe it is just in students that it isn't on.
no i stopped seeing my T, I have a pdoc but...I give up. I screwed up recently, alot especially with the person who could help me with this. I have been a disaster for the last month. I don't think there is any thing left for me to do except break down in front of the school..I guess that is what you are saying to do....just tell my profs how I feel? I wish I could just laugh this off with them at school but I don't think I remember how to laugh today. I think I am in a state of panic right now, or anxiety or what ever it is.
crying must be clouding my cognitive abilities to think this through rationally. I am such a loser! I really hate myself right now.
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 15:37:42
In reply to Re: I wish it was as easy to joke about this IRL » gardenergirl, posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 15:07:03
.....Im sorry for being so negative I just can't seem to think in any other way. Im just feeling... well like crap. sorry...
I appretiate all the support
Posted by gardenergirl on March 21, 2005, at 15:49:46
In reply to I sound really awful right now...., posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 15:37:42
I wish I could help more. And you know what? You are right. On other boards, your ID shows up ready for Babble mail. I wonder what's up with this board. Weird.
Just keep on plodding along. And do talk to your profs if you think it can help. Incompletes aren't that bad, but you DO have to finish them.
((((rain))))
gg
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 20:24:51
In reply to Re: I sound really awful right now.... » rainbowbrite, posted by gardenergirl on March 21, 2005, at 15:49:46
Thanks gg
I was actually thinking of withdrawing, Ive never had an incomplete before...how does it work, do you get the work in at your own pace or something?
Posted by tkmphd on March 21, 2005, at 20:50:48
In reply to Re: I sound really awful right now.... » gardenergirl, posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 20:24:51
i am teaching undergraduates at the moment, and i have had students that have provided me with documentation, as gg was mentioning, that will buy you some time w/ professors.
can you throw yourself on the mercy of the health center? how big is your campus? is there a counselling center there? if not, go to your health services center and try to see a regular doc and fill them in on what is going on. they can provide documentation that you are being treated for a medical condition (they'll keep it vague) and that you need extra time to complete some assignments.
some professors will offer incompletes. an incomplete at our school shows up as an 'i' on your transcript and you have a year to complete the coursework. if you do not complete the coursework after a year, the grade will automatically turn into an F. a year is awhile though, you can do it!! some professors might give you some extra time w/ assignments if that is all you think you need.
i had a student w/ some anxiety issues that she spoke to me about. she had the medical center go through the student disabilities office and they communicated with her professors.
i would say that you should throw yourself on the mercy of the health services or the counseling center at school. universities are equipped to handle this kind of thing, believe me, i've used them at every school i've ever been to. i promise that you are not the first person they are seeing in this same situation.
you will get through it.
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 23:06:18
In reply to Re: I sound really awful right now...., posted by tkmphd on March 21, 2005, at 20:50:48
I did end up speaking to someone about it today to no avail. I hate making a big deal about things, but i will look into an incomplete. I think I have overused what is available to me this term, this is why I am more panicky than I normally would be. I hate crying in front of people and this is what it will come down to. I hope you are right about not being the only one, it definatley feels like I am the only one there who is like this.
Can someone explain to me what is happening, why am I having problems forming sentances? I look and I read and then I can't do anything else because what I read doesn't make sense and writing seems impossible? HOw can stress be doing this much cognitive damage?
Thanks
Posted by alexandra_k on March 22, 2005, at 4:18:06
In reply to Re: I need a miracle..... » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on March 21, 2005, at 8:14:10
> OMG ALEX LMAO I was reading that in a small window and I was getting so excited, I almost didn't see that warning LOL I was just going to jump right to google.
>
> HAHAHAOh. Yes, do go to google and have a look.
I just meant don't you dare keep loading the page to find an appropriate essay to submit.It is a random essay generator.
It is a sort of joke at 'postmodernism'. The idea is that while the randomly generated sentances are syntactically correct they don't actually mean a hell of a lot...
But if you keep reloading the page...
Generating random essay after random essay...
Something sensible and appropriate may be generated eventually.
If a million monkeys typed for a million years and all that...
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 22, 2005, at 8:32:46
In reply to Re: I need a miracle..... » rainbowbrite, posted by alexandra_k on March 22, 2005, at 4:18:06
> Oh. Yes, do go to google and have a look.
> I just meant don't you dare keep loading the page to find an appropriate essay to submit.
I think I will! Anything I find will be better tahn what is in my head currently.> It is a random essay generator.
cool
>
> It is a sort of joke at 'postmodernism'. The idea is that while the randomly generated sentances are syntactically correct they don't actually mean a hell of a lot...
OH haha I see. But still I bet I could find something better than what I can do right now.> But if you keep reloading the page...
> Generating random essay after random essay...
> Something sensible and appropriate may be generated eventually.
> If a million monkeys typed for a million years and all that...I am on a mission now! I see monkeys flying so you never know
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 22, 2005, at 13:55:58
In reply to Re: I need a miracle..... » alexandra_k, posted by rainbowbrite on March 22, 2005, at 8:32:46
I guess Im posting becasue I am hoping for a miracle of some kind and if I don't let it out anywhere where will the miracle come from? I just feel so alone right now, things are not working in my favor (I am trying) and it is hard to manage it all right now. I can't even take notes during lectures anymore. I am trying to build the strength to go to someone higher about this but Im so embarassed and truely hoping I will pull through this.
overwhelmed rain
Posted by gardenergirl on March 22, 2005, at 15:35:37
In reply to Re: I need a miracle....., posted by rainbowbrite on March 22, 2005, at 13:55:58
Rain,
I think you need to look at what non-miracle options you have. Truly, you will find relief once you take some active steps. And even just taking some pro-active steps, like talking to your profs or the counseling center will bring you some emotional relief. I can almost guarantee it.I hate to say it, but there are very few miracles. And your chances are better at the lottery, frankly.
Can you try to get an appt. with someone at one of the centers? The sooner you do it, the more time you will have to implement whatever plans they help you work ou.
You can do this. Even if you feel like you have burned out your resources, if you are sincere in desiring help, and you work WITH them to work out a plan and to implement it, I can't imagine them not helping. If they don't want to help you, you just call me, and I'll come over and kick them in the shins. 'k?
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on March 22, 2005, at 15:38:27
In reply to Re: I need a miracle....., posted by rainbowbrite on March 22, 2005, at 13:55:58
And let me just add that I have worked with lots of students in your situation. You are not the only one who has had a crash like this. And actually, it's not uncommon for this to happen as it gets closer to the end of a semester, the end of a year, or the end of an academic career.
I know I have lots of resources available to help the undergrads and grad students I work with. I'm sure I have a doppelganger over there. In fact, I bet she's nicer and maybe even doesn't have depression. Maybe she's even finished her dissertation, who knows?
(((((rain)))))
gg
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 22, 2005, at 15:57:15
In reply to Re: I need a miracle....., posted by gardenergirl on March 22, 2005, at 15:38:27
>And let me just add that I have worked with lots of students in your situation. You are not the only one who has had a crash like this. And actually, it's not uncommon for this to happen as it gets closer to the end of a semester, the end of a year, or the end of an academic career.
thanks, it really does feel very isolating.
>I know I have lots of resources available to help the undergrads and grad students I work with. I'm sure I have a doppelganger over there. In fact, I bet she's nicer and maybe even doesn't have depression. Maybe she's even finished her dissertation, who knows?
(((((rain)))))
gg
Maybe, I just cant find her if she does exist.Thanks so much for being here :-)
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 22, 2005, at 16:03:01
In reply to Re: I need a miracle..... » rainbowbrite, posted by gardenergirl on March 22, 2005, at 15:35:37
I sent you a babble mail becaue I am not able to be that clear here sometimes and it explains a little better, (and Im desparate) but honestly I don't know if I am digging my grave or if soemone is helping me dig? It explains why I need a miracle I guess. OH maybe Im just nuts...and please do tell me if you think I am.
I don't know,
but the shin kick I will hold you too :-)thanks again
Posted by gardenergirl on March 27, 2005, at 0:06:24
In reply to Re: I need a miracle..... » gardenergirl, posted by rainbowbrite on March 22, 2005, at 16:03:01
You still hanging in there? Pushing through til the end?
You can do it! You've got the Babble cheer squad behind you!
gg
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 27, 2005, at 15:37:30
In reply to How's that miracle working? » rainbowbrite, posted by gardenergirl on March 27, 2005, at 0:06:24
> You still hanging in there?
Im still hanging :-P
Pushing through til the end?
Trying really really hard to :)
> You can do it! You've got the Babble cheer squad behind you!
>
> ggAww thanks, I need the cheer squad :-)
Im trudging along just a little stumped right now, but hopefully a couple of glasses of wine at dinner will help me to accomplish my goal tonight (alright lol not my goal but a part of it)HAppy Easter!
rain
Posted by alexandra_k on March 27, 2005, at 17:08:04
In reply to Re: How's that miracle working? » gardenergirl, posted by rainbowbrite on March 27, 2005, at 15:37:30
YOU WILL GET THERE!!!
(I am cheering too)
:-)
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 27, 2005, at 18:00:12
In reply to Re: How's that miracle working?, posted by alexandra_k on March 27, 2005, at 17:08:04
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 28, 2005, at 9:40:33
In reply to Re: How's that miracle working? » gardenergirl, posted by rainbowbrite on March 27, 2005, at 15:37:30
what a relief! I feel so much better about this
Thanks!!
I really didn't think it was possible
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