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re: Our Digital Nation

Posted by 64bowtie on June 20, 2012, at 2:10:12

<<<Dinah>>>,
You brought up an interesting point about how our emerging impersonal world has developed a parallel phenomenon of people online finding security of friendship while only chatting online (in the day to day work environment)...

I just finished watching "Digital Nation" on PBS Frontline... Lo and behold, that was a large part of the discussions in the first half hour of the program...

Counter intuitive, is the history of abusive relationships and serial murderers among the stories of relationships begun over the Internet; via eMail and IM/chat... This is nagging at me that there might be a vague process of vetting of strangers going on underneath whatever we are saying on the surface; not particularly successfully, though...

If so, on the one hand this is a vast and efficient benefit to the annotated "impersonal nature" of communication over the internet... While, on the other hand, the participants may bring an unholy agenda to the process, resulting in the all toooo familiar disasters that plague the Police Blotters coast to coast...

I suggest that stepping up research into "Out of Body" practices, which disconnect the subjective desires from the witnessing of what's right there
in front us for all to see; the objective view of conversations as they happen... As depicted in the segment on gaming in a virtual reality, e.g. "The World of War Craft", avatars can can almost develop a kinship, even though they have never met...

Perhaps, as an "Out of Body" practitioner over the past 10 years, gives me a perspective hard for many to see and understand... Picture this: if i have a toothache, you can't feel my pain... Even after you hear my complaint, you can sympathise with my condition, as if you can remember such pain... Regardless, your nervous system is not my nervous system, thus, no pain...

Likewise, when you go "Out of Body", you can no longer feel the toothache, because you are now outside the body where the pain exists... If this pain was clouding your judgement while you were inside your body, you can now operate with a new found clarity from your alternate perspective; in a state of objectivity, not distracted by the pain...

I propose that folks can discover a clarity in conversations over the internet as time goes by for them... The have a sort of sublime vetting process going on that eventually evokes a sense security and certainty giving way to a kinship; a kindred spirit emerging between these, otherwise, strangers...

Thanks again <<<Dinah>>>, for your pioneering spirit and energies....

Rod

 

re: Our Digital Nation » 64bowtie

Posted by Dinah on June 27, 2012, at 9:35:52

In reply to re: Our Digital Nation, posted by 64bowtie on June 20, 2012, at 2:10:12

I can't remember how it came about, but a high school teacher convinced me of the benefits of visualization for pain blocking. I can actually do a pretty good job of blocking pain by imagining a wall between whatever is hurting and my brain. The nerve impulses come along and are unable to pass the wall. My son prefers visualizing a rubber barrier.

I also do some visualization of antibodies immobilizing viruses. But that doesn't work as well, I don't think.

I've taught everyone in the family to stop hiccups by really concentrating on their breathing, but seem to have lost the knack myself. I must not be capable of that much concentration anymore.

The trouble with out of body imaginings, for me, is that I tend to dissociate at the best of times. I have to work far harder at grounding. It does work. Very well. But it carries with it some dangers of its own.


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