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Posted by B2Chica on December 17, 2004, at 10:57:32
ok, i know the concept of DBT. open dialogue lots of group stuff, supposed to be more 'intense' right? it has been suggested several times to me but i HATE groups and refuse to participate in them...but i feel comfortable here at babble in 'group' setting so...well. just want to hear some more about it from you.
CubicME, you've been doing this lately right? i know we both have the same view on groups...what do you do? do you get a little one on one? how often. and do they give 'activities'?
would like to learn more about DBT AND get some real impressions.To be honest right now this is not an option...i just can't but i'm an options girl and just want to know...just in case..maybe i have the wrong impression of it.
I've been really good and haven't cut in about a month...but i have lost 9 lbs...yes yes i realize this is substitute SI. and no one but my husband really notices the weight loss. so ok, i get it...i need help.
But as i posted on social the T i thought i Finally found will be gone starting next week for one month. i actually feel no struggle to talk with him. i like him. and OK so this is borderline PD talking but right now it's him or no one and maybe i'm saying that cuz i'm scared...Damn right. i don't feel like kicking up any dust right now. i'm closed and it's pushed in a comfortable space right now. i can hold out.
But till then i have babble and my pdoc for emergency.
(sorry, did i just ramble on...)thanks for any input.
b2c.
Posted by cubic_me on December 17, 2004, at 15:28:01
In reply to DBT...CubicMe??-others, posted by B2Chica on December 17, 2004, at 10:57:32
I just wrote a massively long post, but it's not showing up :( I will try to summarise!
I've been going to group for about 3 months (11/2 hours a week) - there are 8 of us. We don't do activities (except we set 'rules' that all the group members should try to follow (coming on time, not acting on agressive feelings in group etc). The T doesn't speak much, except to get us to talk more about our feelings (don't they all!!). We just chat about nothing much. The T wants us to talk more about things that bother us etc, but none of us really feel ready to do that - I don't think I'll ever want to talk to these people about me, but I'm happy to participate in group on a 'surface level'.
Where I have therapy doesn't have enough funding for us to go to individual as well - alot of places do this tho. I would definately like just the occasional session, especially as I am thinking of giving up group as it isn't doing much for me. Maybe this is resistance or transference, but most of the group probably haven't heard of them, and they may be biased. We can't talk to the group T individually either, so I feel a bit alone.
Some of the group are really getting something out of it tho. However these seem to be the people with more 'surface' issues. I'm not sure what good me talking to them is doing me tho' - I can do that all day with patients in hospital when I am working!
About your new T: you said that you though only wanting to see him may be a sign of your borderline. I was thinking maybe wanting *only* him (when he is unavailable at the momeent, and may be unavailable in future) may be a way of avoiding therapy (and the issues it brings up). If I'm totally off base, just ignore that!
OK, that wasn't much of a summary, but there you go!
Posted by alexandra_k on December 17, 2004, at 15:42:33
In reply to DBT...CubicMe??-others, posted by B2Chica on December 17, 2004, at 10:57:32
I did one year of DBT group. It is very structured. You work through the skills training manuel
http://faculty.washington.edu/linehan/MML'sd%20Books.htm
twice. I have heard that sometimes they will only work through it once, but then you miss skills if you miss a group, or if you aren't paying attention because of personal crisis or whatever.You do a mindfulness excercise to start (takes a couple of minutes). Then you go around and say something about how you found the exercise. Then you have to go around and go through your diary card which you had to record which skills you practiced on which days. And say a bit about how your week went.
The skills are divided into four sections:
Mindfulness skills (meditation, relaxation, calming awareness)
Interpersonal skills
Emotion Regulation
and.... heh heh, its been a while, maybe there were only 3...Then we had a cigarette break.
Then the next hour we spent listening to one of the trainers tell us about the new skill. Then we practiced it for a while.And that was it. We had one 2 hour session per week, but I think different people vary the length and frequency of group. That is the basic structure, though, of DBT skills training group.
I hated going to group.
I didn't much like the others (though they grew on me rather a lot to be sure). I didn't want to tell them anything personal. You can hang back to a certain extent, and that is always helped by some people who just LOVE group and have difficulty shutting up.All in all it was worth it though. In hindsight, though at the time I hated it...
Posted by B2Chica on December 21, 2004, at 18:18:58
In reply to Re: DBT...CubicMe??-others » B2Chica, posted by cubic_me on December 17, 2004, at 15:28:01
hey sweetie, thanks. summed up perfectly. i did the group thing while in the hosp last spring and an outpatient thing and hated both. i just feel it's a waste of my money.
below is both true and false. yes i was putting off therapy, i'm very scared cuz last time it seemed to only make things worse. however, this guy 'gets it'. when i struggle for the words he knows, he doesn't push or pull...it's just there. he'll let me draw things out (which is awesome for me since when sometimes i can't say things but i know i could draw them...)
So i know this is the one. but i am in one sense glad that it's being stalled till after the holidays cuz of some issues i'm not wanting to get into. on the other hand. my depression is really bad right now and i could use the support...really badly.
thnx CM.
b2c.> About your new T: you said that you though only wanting to see him may be a sign of your borderline. I was thinking maybe wanting *only* him (when he is unavailable at the momeent, and may be unavailable in future) may be a way of avoiding therapy (and the issues it brings up). If I'm totally off base, just ignore that!
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