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Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 27, 2021, at 0:43:02
jesus, ... long suffering i think is term that was used also with the slaves during the ruling 3000yrs ago, they suffered but still had faith, and were set free. That is bible history record, but there are many others that are in libraries that have info of many other documented times. The bible is limited in historical events (but it is word, and should be read). But long suffering, i'll give a description, it's suffering, feeling hopeleness, and everyday is suffering. But the faith, that keep faith in jesus christ to be saved. Some people hate jesus christ, they believe that his followers should be terminated. It's happening in other countries. But the faith, to help breathern and turn from wicked ways, to do goodness. Long suffering is something i want to elobrate on in later posts, the only endurance is faith. I'll be back to write some descriptions and research on it. Be back soon
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Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 27, 2021, at 20:27:05
In reply to Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on August 27, 2021, at 0:43:02
ok. So, i found that long suffering does not actually mean suffering for a long time, but having faith. Long suffering also means having slow temper, being patient. It also that the lord is long suffering. Being patient with holding back on falling for corrupted desires of the flesh. Long suffering yes, can mean waiting patiently and having faith in jesus christ or the lord, but it mean also patience. To endure those who treat, or wrath to you, but repay evil with good. So, that means, ... being persecuted, beaten, abused, but in the end, giving good instead of evil. I don't really, during these end times, long suffering is a main thing that should be considered, also somethign called forbearance which is self control and not acting out in evil, spiteful, hateful. This....when we talk about fighting and wars, i have no idea how long suffering applies to that because you have to elimiate the enemies. I have no idea how long suffering applies to a war, or war times where it's written to do anything you have to do to destroy your enemey.
It's written in exodus 34:6 " The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in lovingkindness and truth"
2nd Peter 3:9
"The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance"1st Peter 3:8 (darby bible version)
Finally, be all of one mind, sympathising, full of brotherly love, tender hearted, humble minded; 9 not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing; but on the contrary, blessing others, because ye have been called to this, that ye should inherit blessing"
Inheriting blessings, i don't see anything in my life that has that. But i do know that faith without works will not work. I think what these verses are saying is humbleness during persecution and when evil persecution hits you, not to do evil back to it. Goodness. Still i don't know how that applies in wars, and all this confict going on today. It's bad, we living in a very evil time. It's a bit ironic that all the Millennium that there were in the past, we all were chosen to be at the end times. This generation. So, during these times, humbleness and not react with evil and do evil back. Long suffering is what the lord did, slow to anger, not lashing out in evil, or having evil desires. That's all i can write right now.
I'll be back soon with more info
blessings to you
rj
Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 30, 2021, at 19:47:53
In reply to Re: Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on August 27, 2021, at 20:27:05
long suffering is miturer of enduring horrible times, being patient, resist the urge to sin and indulge in sinful pleasures. These pleasures will take you to the underworld, after you die. But also having faith, in god, and long suffering. That's all i can think to write. I'll be back
Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 30, 2021, at 20:01:27
In reply to Re: Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on August 30, 2021, at 19:47:53
jesus had said i've set you free - or paul said that, we're forgiven of our sins but i think a major misconception is we're free and encouraged to do sinful things now that jesus has got us covered. This im telling you, this is not true, if we live in sinful desires, have sex all the time (without marrige) being a drunkard, an intelligent liar, it will take you to hell. I'm sorry i have say that, that's no insult to you who's reading but ... it's true.
Endurue till the end, resist sin, follow jesus. The laws that god said, forniciation, vanity, indulgance in sinful things (corruption, seduction, deception) if you commit them and continue to do them, even with saying jesus is lord, those terrible words 'depart from me, i never knew you' meaning you didnt listen, you did your own thing and your own indulgance - and say 'i have done nothing wrong'. Alot of churches maybe are like this, im saying, im insulting, it's just we have save people from hellfire, and their sinful desires and turn from them.
Desire - sex desire, worldly ambition, it's just these things are worldly, - the world has no problem with commiting sin, its a common name in every house hold, and it is not seen as wrong. To save, we have to tell people this is sin, and it will take you to hellfire - a place of suffering and it's forver. These people that died and came back, and descrbied what they saw while they had passed away, people in flames, demons tormenting people, horrid place. They came back. I saw these on youtube videos, on chirstain networks, they came back and told what they saw. So, i believed what they said, and they only thing is now want to save. That's i can write, blessings to you. Resist sin.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 30, 2021, at 20:04:25
In reply to Re: Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on August 30, 2021, at 20:01:27
ok i did some typos - fornication, and said 'im insulting - 'i'm not insulting'.... i wrote it too fast, make sure the point is accurate without typos
Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 30, 2021, at 20:07:53
In reply to Re: Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on August 30, 2021, at 20:04:25
blessings to you, have faith and prayer
Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 4, 2021, at 18:27:49
In reply to Re: Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on August 27, 2021, at 20:27:05
i'm going to put the full 1 peter 2:8-18 in king james version :
8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 9 not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. 10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile: 11 let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it. 12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good? 14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; 15 but sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 16 having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. 17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
Those words right there saying, it would better to suffer for doing good, than to suffer for doing evil. That is a big indicator of long suffering, suffering from doing good, even though good may be persecuted, there are many people who will turn from doing good when they are attacked or pressured, so they will do evil. Staying long suffering, suffering for doing good, is better than suffering from doing evil things. It's saying even in evil times, evil speakings, evil things being conspired, we have to do long suffering during these end times period. If we just jump, and start doing evil as the world is, then we will go from good, to evil. Evil as doing things of the world, sins, evil speakings, many thinggs. We suffering because we are followers of jesus, and even in suffering, they will be saved those endture to till the end
Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 5, 2021, at 17:39:30
In reply to Re: Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 4, 2021, at 18:27:49
Whatever happens during persecution that could happen and also happening in other countries, just know we are followers of jesus, we could be persecuted but endure till the end, stay faithful and not fall for sinful desires. Those who endure till the end will be saved
Posted by rjlockhart37 on October 8, 2021, at 19:36:34
In reply to Re: Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 5, 2021, at 17:39:30
we just have to make a known fact, that it's a dire warning to the place of fire, and brimestone, after death. All that reincarnation stuff, it's lies. When someone dies and then wakes up only to find themselves in the most horrid place of suffering - and to be there forever. That has to be a transmission to repent of sins, and follow the lord. In chrisanity, accepting jesus christ and giving up worldly ways. Other religions, they have to know about this horrid place after death. I don't know how to explain or convince but it's just a dire warning to repent of sins and evil ways. There is no exact knowing people will repent, but once know that this place is real. People in hell right now would do anyhing to get back to earth, out of the enomrous heat that's in hellfire, and torments. They would do anything to get back on earth, and make things right. So, that's ... why we have warn. I'm just a runt, im not a pastor, but i've heard and read of people's testimonies who they died for a certain amount of time, and they came back and explained what they saw in hellfire. Don't know how else but long suffering, it would be better to live a miserable life in this life, than to deal with the misery of hell afterwards.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on October 8, 2021, at 19:48:50
In reply to Re: Long suffering, posted by rjlockhart37 on October 8, 2021, at 19:36:34
i think longsuffering - living in suffering but while doing goodness, and suffering from doing goodness. I'm not sure, long suffering has many meanings. People (including me) suffer everyday with circumstances that are not linked to goodness or evil. But i think suffering but staying faithful to god, even during horrible suffering. Suffering for long periods but not giving up faith, and hope. To be saved by the lord
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