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Posted by BetweenDreams81 on December 24, 2010, at 18:40:06
I'm apologizing first because, this probably does not belong in this particular forum, however, I haven't posted in any of the others so feel most comfortable here.
I am going nuts! I really need to see someone (ie: pdoc) but I don't have the money to see the one I want to see ($350 for the eval). So I found a low cost/sliding scale provider, but their first opening is in middle of January when I leave to go to Florida to start all over again with my business, and I was really hoping to be solid before getting there. I am so afraid of slipping back into a deep depression like I did last year. (Can feel the slump starting) I'm frustrated, it is such a catch 22...need money to get better, and if I'm better I'm productive/working/making money, but if you don't have $ to begin with you can't get the d@mn help you need be in a better position to continue being well. What to do?? Any suggestions? I am quite literally at the end of my rope here. I'm stressed and anxious and snapping at the smallest things lately and then I hate myself for it. Any suggestions are very much appreciated
Posted by Phillipa on December 25, 2010, at 22:00:50
In reply to Going NUTS! Yet help is just out of reach..., posted by BetweenDreams81 on December 24, 2010, at 18:40:06
You might want to post this either on social board or medication board if you have or do take meds. Phillipa
Posted by morgan miller on December 27, 2010, at 21:27:05
In reply to Going NUTS! Yet help is just out of reach..., posted by BetweenDreams81 on December 24, 2010, at 18:40:06
What natural treatments have you tried or are currently trying?
I'm have some success with New Chapter SJW, but it is taking a while to figure out the right dose as well as just taking time to work a little magic. You may start to benefit as soon as a week or two into it. I bet you've already gone down the SJW road though. Brand definitely matters, and differs with each individual.
Would you be open to trying a little lithium orotate? It's cheap as dirt and you can get it online. Vitamin Research Products has a quality lithium orotate product.
I'm assuming you are doing fish oil omega 3s.
Ever tried korean red ginseng?
How about rhodiola?
I love Holy Basil for putting me in a more peaceful relaxed state of mind. I use New Chapter Holy Basil. Get the supercritical extract though, they have another version of Holy Basil that is not as potent.
Could you tell us exactly what your symptoms are? What medications you've tried in the past and your response to them?
Hope your holiday was nice. Hang in there.
Morgan
Posted by BetweenDreams81 on December 27, 2010, at 22:55:57
In reply to Re: Going NUTS! Yet help is just out of reach..., posted by morgan miller on December 27, 2010, at 21:27:05
Hey morgan, thanks for posting.
I loved Rhodiola...but stopped taking it a while ago, and when I restarted it, it didn't have any effect anymore.
I was taking lithium orotate, and it worked wonders for anxiety, but nothing for depression or the absolute lack of drive to do anything...feeling very sluggish. (just ran out)
Haven't tried SJW becuase of the photosensitivity issues, I work outside with the horses a lot, and didn't want to risk it (esp since I will be in sunny FL for the next 3 months)
Have not tried Holy Basil, though it sounds great. Thinking of trying Kanna.
Tried Panax Ginseng, not sure how it differs from the Korean Ginseng....it gives me an energy boost, but if I am in a not so pleasant mood it just gives me more energy behind the unpleasant mood and makes it worse.
Mostly, I was venting looking for options to find another resource to get affordable help. The pdoc I would like to see is rather expensive, the local state mental health services take forever to get appointments and diagnosis. It's a rather frustrating catch 22 to be in when you know how productive you can be if you are feeling well, motivated, and not depressed. And when you feel so stuck without options and are staring down about to hit rock bottom, it is really scary.
For the better part of the summer I was great, but then Sept came and I started to feel the same slump I felt last year. I started taking Lithium orotate and the cyclical thoughts that lead to anxiety went away, but just overall a lack of desire to do much, feeling just bland and at times I will be extremely irritable and irrational for a few days at a time. Then it goes back to this foggy bland state. This past week or so I have been incredibly moody (and it has nothing to do with hormones) starting to feel a bit lower, have had a few spontaneous cries and have been snapping at my mother and my sister for nearly no reason at all. Last night was exhibit A: we had just finished seeing Little fockers (funny movie btw!) and were all starving ready to eat, we went to get take out from my fav Thai restaurant, Mom put in the order, and when we got bakc to the house to eat , all of the food had been spiced to medium spice...a rage came over me I was so looking forward to the food and I couldn't eat it because it was so hot and I snapped, and my entire evening was spoiled from it... it has been very uncomfortable and I hate feeling this way. AND what's more I am supposed to be leaving for FL in 2 wks for my business and will be there for 12 weeks. Last year this similar pattern showed and I ended up under the covers for 2 months, lost 90% of my clientele, and then that was followed by a manic episode (1-2 months??) that led to an unsuccessful relocation to FL and other rather horrible circumstances resulting from not so great decisions. I am scared to death that this is starting all over again. I have not seen a pdoc, because I have not had the funds to do so.
Thankfully, I was able to swallow a bit of pride and borrowed $ to be able to get a thorough evaluation from the pdoc that was recommended to me. Call to make in the morning
Posted by BetweenDreams81 on December 27, 2010, at 23:16:31
In reply to Re: Going NUTS! Yet help is just out of reach..., posted by morgan miller on December 27, 2010, at 21:27:05
forgot to add list of what I have tried:
Lithium orotate 3 AM, 3 PM (effective for cyclical thoughts and anxiety...NOT depression or low mood)
1000(? or are they 1200?)mg Barlean's Fish Oil Capsules (4/day, 2 in AM 2 in PM) didn't notice any difference...and nothing like the elevation I get from eating some good sushi.
600-1000 B6 (sometimes can help with depression)
B12 sublingual 'lozenges'...no bueno, always feel sick after taking them
Simply One Prenatal multi-vitamin...No, I'm not expecting or trying!...it has an included dose of iron and folic acid so that I don't have to take an extra pill. It is a good, food sourced vitamin
Planetary brand Vitex...helps dramatically with hormone based mood swings due to monthly cycle
Was taking Research Labs Cell Membrane complex, but I always seem to get a massive dull headache about 20 min after taking it. (combo of Ca/Mg/K orotates) Didn't take consistently enough to notice anything
I just ran out of Lithium orotate. I have not taken any prescription drugs for this yet. This appointment I make (Tues AM) will be my first real appointment/evaluation.
Hope this helps?
Posted by morgan miller on December 29, 2010, at 0:11:23
In reply to Re: Going NUTS! Yet help is just out of reach..., posted by BetweenDreams81 on December 27, 2010, at 23:16:31
Good luck with your appt!
Posted by jeaner on December 30, 2010, at 20:40:39
In reply to Re: Going NUTS! Yet help is just out of reach..., posted by BetweenDreams81 on December 27, 2010, at 22:55:57
You say you were starving. How is your blood sugar count. I worked for a women who had hypoglycemia and if she didn't eat on time boy did she go off.She got really angry over nothing. A little while later she was fine.
Posted by BetweenDreams81 on December 31, 2010, at 10:42:11
In reply to Re: Going NUTS! Yet help is just out of reach..., posted by jeaner on December 30, 2010, at 20:40:39
I think my blood sugar is fine. I have tested it numerous times before (my mother is diabetic). There have been a few times off and on when I haven't eaten much of anything and I feel light headed, but I think that is pretty normal for anyone really. We stopped for a grilled chicken sandwich before the movie, and had popcorn and sodas during the movie right after the movie we left to pick up the food...so, I don't think blood sugar played much of a part. Maybe, it was more of a craving than starving...hadn't had Thai in a good while and was really looking forward to it.
I appreciate the suggestion, thanks.
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