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Posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 9:42:29
Let me try this again. Has anyone tried this? I've heard of improved mood and energy with it.
Oh well, I bought some and am trying it myself, starting cautiously, due to my bad experience with quercetin...
Posted by nolvas on June 22, 2008, at 12:27:03
In reply to resveratrol, posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 9:42:29
Hello I too am interested in Reservatrol. Could you also give me some details regarding your bad experience with Quercetin please? I'm currently using it to treat Prostatitis.
Posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 13:20:31
In reply to Re: resveratrol, posted by nolvas on June 22, 2008, at 12:27:03
mainly, i got light-headed, and dizzy. i think cuz it caused vasodilation and thus low-blood-pressure.
also, i fainted on some low-quality bilberry fruit extract. so i have a fear of anything that might cause the low-blood-pressure...
well, if you haven't felt light-headed yet, you're probably ok...i felt it right away...
Posted by nolvas on June 22, 2008, at 14:59:06
In reply to Re: resveratrol / quercetin, posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 13:20:31
Ah well I experienced quite horrible vertigo attacks, and I felt pretty ill whilst taking Quercetin. I thought it was my imagination or me just being over anxious taking something new, but now you've mentioned you were dizzy I'm going to give this stuff a wide birth. My agoraphobia symptoms are dizziness. I'm scared of being dizzy so anything that makes it worse is pretty much no go for me.
Posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 15:44:55
In reply to Re: resveratrol / quercetin, posted by nolvas on June 22, 2008, at 14:59:06
yeah, the low-blood-pressure from quercetin was brutal on the job...
i'm really wondering if resveratrol has the same effect on blood pressure. it has a much shorter half-life, and seems to be mostly metabolized within 4 hours (link(1)), whereas quercetin has a 17-hour half-life (2), which is more typical of an anti-depressant that builds in your system...
they sell supplements that are 50% pure resveratrol and like 98% pure. I have the 50%. so perhaps i need the purer stuff...wish i knew what the other 50% was...i've heard there's emodin in there which is a laxitive...
1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resveratrol
2)
http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/ABSTRACTS/Antioxidants_in_Cancer_Therapy_Part_3.shtml
Posted by nolvas on June 22, 2008, at 16:34:07
In reply to Re: resveratrol / quercetin, posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 15:44:55
The main problem with Reservatrol is that supplementation is unproven in effectiveness.
"There is also concern in the scientific community that many of the currently-available resveratrol supplements contain little or none of the active ingredient." (Wikipedia)
Posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 17:40:27
In reply to Re: resveratrol / quercetin, posted by nolvas on June 22, 2008, at 16:34:07
I think there are studies out there on mice that are pretty convincing...though i realize we aren't mice...
"A Compound in Red Wine Makes Fat Mice Healthy"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/01/AR2006110101667.html"Yes, Red Wine Holds Answer. Check Dosage"
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/science/02drug.html
Posted by nolvas on June 28, 2008, at 7:48:31
In reply to Re: resveratrol / quercetin, posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 17:40:27
There's nothing wrong with Reservatrol per se, the problem is ingesting it as a supplement, where there's no clear indication that supplementation is an effective way of getting the active compounds in to the body where they can have a meaningful effect.
Posted by qqqsimmons on July 5, 2008, at 11:14:39
In reply to Re: resveratrol / quercetin, posted by nolvas on June 28, 2008, at 7:48:31
i would think taking an knotweed extract standardized to, say, 50% or 98% resveratrol would be effective. if resveratrol can pass through the blood brain barrier, it should have no trouble with the intestinal walls.
alas, a recent study showed that resveratrol didn't extend maximum lifespan in mice. it just countered the effects of a high-calorie diet, so they lived as long as those on a lower cal diet...
Posted by elanor roosevelt on October 2, 2008, at 23:39:31
In reply to Re: resveratrol / quercetin, posted by qqqsimmons on June 22, 2008, at 17:40:27
I think there are studies out there on mice that are pretty convincing...though i realize we aren't mice...
you aren't mice?
damn i'm at the wrong board again
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