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Posted by kekehuhu on May 15, 2008, at 6:54:50
Hi.
I've been taking Taurine 3000mg per day from an energy drink with extremely good result! My anxiety was way down, depression was gone, and I was full of enthusiasm. It was the first time I felt like a tough guy like feeling. I've never thought I'll find this kind of effect but it was almost a miracle for me.
but, since taking the taurine from energy drink was quite pricey, I tried capsule form 2000mg. From the first capsule, it gave me crazy stomach upset and heartburn. I've always been having a weak stomach since I was young. My doctor thinks I might have helicobacter(was treated for it 4 years ago but doc says it might have reoccured) and ulcer so I'll have endoscopy done in a month. I'm taking antacid now to reduce the burning during the night.
I did some research over the internet on Taurine, and found the following:
methionine convert to Cysteine, and cysteine convert to Taurine. I also have some of the Symptoms of methionine and cysteine deficiency such as loss of hair pigmentation. My hair is black but I've been always having a few white hairs since puberty.So, I wonder if all these psychological problems I'm having are related to amino acid deficiency, specifically Cycsteine/Methionine/Taurine.
What would be the best supplement that I can take for minimum stomach upset? Will taking L-Methionine only increase both Cysteine and taurine level in my system?
I also read zinc deficiency can lead to low level of these amino acids.
I really need a good advice from someone who knows about chemistry. Someone who works in the field or someone who studied chemistry in college....since my doctor won't be able to answer these questions for sure. Thank you so much for reading :).
Posted by kekehuhu on May 15, 2008, at 6:59:08
In reply to Need a chemist: question about Taurine, posted by kekehuhu on May 15, 2008, at 6:54:50
Oh, I forgot to mention that my chronic adult acne completely disappeared too. So, I definitely think I'm deficiency in these amino acids.
Posted by bleauberry on May 15, 2008, at 19:45:59
In reply to Need a chemist: question about Taurine, posted by kekehuhu on May 15, 2008, at 6:54:50
Not sure what's up here...why taurine in a drink is ok but not when taken by itself. That makes me wonder if there isn't something else in the drink working in synergy with taurine, as well as countering the stomach probs.
Taurine is complicated. I don't think any brain or computer on the planet can completely explain what each amino acid does. Their roles are multiple and complex. They probably vary even more from person to person.
Taurine is basically a calming amino, similar in function to GABA, serotonin, or magnesium, and yet it also causes some dopamine release. It is a sulfury compound, which helps to stir up toxins and remove some of them...not a good thing if you've ever had amalgam fillings though...stirs up too much mercury but doesn't eliminate it fast enough to prevent repoinsoning. Taurine helps produce bile, and is good for the liver. I mean, on and on. Roles are complex.
It just seems to me there is something else in the drink that is working with taurine or balancing it out or something like that. If taurine alone was doing you all the good, then I can't think of any reason why taurine by itself would give problems. Maybe possibly look at the ingredients and see if there are any fillers you might be sensitive to.
The possibility exists that the taurine content on the bottle is inaccurate. There is no regulatioin to verify it. The actual taurine you ingest from the drink might be a lot lower than what it says. Then when you take a taurine dose equivilant to what you assume is in the drink, it might be a lot more than you are accustomed to. Just a possibility. Or maybe somehow liquidized taurine is more pallatable than solid. I don't know.
For now, until you figure it out, and you might never figure it out, you might want to just stick with the drink. It apparently has something to it that taurine alone doesn't.
What is the drink? What other ingredients?
Posted by kekehuhu on May 15, 2008, at 21:35:44
In reply to Re: Need a chemist: question about Taurine, posted by bleauberry on May 15, 2008, at 19:45:59
> Not sure what's up here...why taurine in a drink is ok but not when taken by itself. That makes me wonder if there isn't something else in the drink working in synergy with taurine, as well as countering the stomach probs.
>
> Taurine is complicated. I don't think any brain or computer on the planet can completely explain what each amino acid does. Their roles are multiple and complex. They probably vary even more from person to person.
>
> Taurine is basically a calming amino, similar in function to GABA, serotonin, or magnesium, and yet it also causes some dopamine release. It is a sulfury compound, which helps to stir up toxins and remove some of them...not a good thing if you've ever had amalgam fillings though...stirs up too much mercury but doesn't eliminate it fast enough to prevent repoinsoning. Taurine helps produce bile, and is good for the liver. I mean, on and on. Roles are complex.
>
> It just seems to me there is something else in the drink that is working with taurine or balancing it out or something like that. If taurine alone was doing you all the good, then I can't think of any reason why taurine by itself would give problems. Maybe possibly look at the ingredients and see if there are any fillers you might be sensitive to.
>
> The possibility exists that the taurine content on the bottle is inaccurate. There is no regulatioin to verify it. The actual taurine you ingest from the drink might be a lot lower than what it says. Then when you take a taurine dose equivilant to what you assume is in the drink, it might be a lot more than you are accustomed to. Just a possibility. Or maybe somehow liquidized taurine is more pallatable than solid. I don't know.
>
> For now, until you figure it out, and you might never figure it out, you might want to just stick with the drink. It apparently has something to it that taurine alone doesn't.
>
> What is the drink? What other ingredients?thank you for your interest in replying to this thread.
Here's the complete list of ingredients:
taurine 2000mg (sry, thought its 3g but its 2g)
inositol 50mg
b3 20mg
b1 5mg
b2 5mg
b6 5mg
caffeine 30mgI've vitamin B complex that contains everything above except taurine and caffeine, but I never get the same or even similar effect. I usually get very nervous when I drink a cup of coffee so I never drink it, but it seems like the caffeine in the drink is not strong enought to make me nervous.
The taurine that I'm getting upset stomach from has powder in capsules. It says Taurine 1000mg (Free-form). Under other ingredients, Gelatin (capsule) and Stearic Acid (vegetable source).
I've never had amalgam fillings btw.
Posted by bleauberry on May 16, 2008, at 20:50:18
In reply to Re: Need a chemist: question about Taurine, posted by kekehuhu on May 15, 2008, at 21:35:44
My first instinct is that there is some kind of good synergy between the caffeine and taurine for you. I doubt the B's and ultra low dose inositol are doing anything meaningful. I've heard several people say that the supplemental caffeine found in refined drinks or in capsules feels different than caffeine in coffee or tea or soda. Maybe it's not the caffeine, and not the taurine, but instead the combination that is special?
I have no idea, but another thought is that maybe the taurine in the drink is different than the free form taurine of the capsule. Taurine might be attached to another molecule in the drink that is somehow making its delivery smooth and effective, where the taurine by itself isn't? Dunno, just thinking.
Caffeine+taurine sounds most likely to me.
> > What is the drink? What other ingredients?
>
> thank you for your interest in replying to this thread.
>
> Here's the complete list of ingredients:
>
> taurine 2000mg (sry, thought its 3g but its 2g)
> inositol 50mg
> b3 20mg
> b1 5mg
> b2 5mg
> b6 5mg
> caffeine 30mg
>
> I've vitamin B complex that contains everything above except taurine and caffeine, but I never get the same or even similar effect. I usually get very nervous when I drink a cup of coffee so I never drink it, but it seems like the caffeine in the drink is not strong enought to make me nervous.
>
> The taurine that I'm getting upset stomach from has powder in capsules. It says Taurine 1000mg (Free-form). Under other ingredients, Gelatin (capsule) and Stearic Acid (vegetable source).
>
> I've never had amalgam fillings btw.
>
>
Posted by Metoo2 on May 18, 2008, at 0:40:10
In reply to Need a chemist: question about Taurine, posted by kekehuhu on May 15, 2008, at 6:54:50
Hi, I had stomach issues when taking Taurine or chelated Magnesiums until I took them only after a full meal. Like right at the very end. No problems now. Start with a lower dosage and build up though. Good luck.
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